Real Reasons for Going to Berkeley

<p>finally at least someone knows what’s up! (green aw)</p>

<p>"These were the reasons I fell in love with Cal:</p>

<p>“2. The counter-culture movement/hippies/free speech movement/change/going against “the man” culture that still thrives here.”
…uhhh…where? The UC Regents have been super opressive of the faculty and staff, and yet, I don’t see any students refusing to register or protesting. Instead, what you’ll find at UCB is a buncha students who want to save a tree, instead of saving the faculty on the campus that the tree is on. =/</p>

<p>“6. The climate: not too cold, not too hot. Actually, Rand McNally rated nearby Oakland as the city with the best climate in the world.”
…and it’s also one of the most dangerous places in the country. lol.</p>

<p>“7. The Third World Liberation Front (TwLF) movement that happened here in the 70s. Ever wonder why Cal is so racially diverse compared to other UCs? It is because students of color fought (and continue to fight) for policies geared toward tutoring/outreaching/counseling/admitting more students of color.”</p>

<p>I honestly don’t think that students of color have successfully continued the struggle that was laid out before them. Begin your matriculation and you’ll see why. But CAL isn’t that diverse. It’s majority Asian and White with your sprinkles of Blacks and Latinos here and there. </p>

<p>“I highly recommend watching the film “Berkeley in the Sixties”. The campus screens this movie at the beginning of every year I think. It really puts a lot of what you will see as you walk by on campus every day into perspective. Buildings will not just be buildings here at Cal…you will be able to feel the ghosts of protesters in the past every time you walk through Sproul!”</p>

<p>Ha! That’s all they are, is ghosts. Trust me. CAL is an extermely conservative school in terms of its politics. After matriculating some of the countries great revolutionaries, like Huey P. Newton and Richard Aoki, the last thing they want to do is create true revolution. </p>

<p>If this is what you think CAL is all about, trust me, you’re in for a culture shock.</p>

<p>…::I chose CAL because its close to home (from Richmond), and I don’t want to go in debt going to a private school like USC or Stanford. So, I just stuck with the next best thing.</p>

<p>Haas to get rich, other majors are worthless except engineering or if you’re planning to become a doctor, if i could have the patience for computer science classes, i would be an eecs major</p>

<p>“other majors are worthless except engineering or if you’re planning to become a doctor”</p>

<p>That is really harsh…not to mention elitist and completely untrue!</p>

<p>maybe I really should have committed to Penn or Princeton if I’m going to get no respect at Berkeley for my major >:[</p>

<p>rexte what the hell are you saying</p>

<p>business majors, you know the type</p>

<p>Either rexte is kidding or rexte is one of the Haas kids I frown upon. </p>

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<p>There are idiots at any school, and I promise you’ll find people who care for + respect you and your major. A lot of engineers have really stupidly huge pride issues, and the funny thing is that it’s usually the mediocre engineers who scorn other majors, given they’re getting thrashed by their major and hate on others. Those who’re happy with their majors have all the inclination to appreciate others. </p>

<p>I kind of frown on pre-professional majors on average – all except the few level-headed ones I’ve met. Two of my roommates study EECS, and they’re both very delightfully open people (while very ambitious with their EECS majors) – one of them is interested in psychology classes, the other heavily in philosophy. And the other two are premed and prelaw respectively, and considerably less open in my experience (both have claimed that English and philosophy are so useless as majors that they can’t imagine why these majors exist). Obviously I won’t generalize, but this was a true snapshot.</p>

<p>As has been gathered from my posts, I’m sure, I very much appreciate English, so this was irritating to me to say the least.</p>

<p>“As has been gathered from my posts, I’m sure, I very much appreciate English, so this was irritating to me to say the least.”</p>

<p>Yes, I know you do. But you are just one out of several thousand. I don’t know how much thrashing I’d be able to take and if I would be able to meet people like your two EECS roommates…</p>

<p>I guess I’m also saying that because my resolution about having made the right college choice took a few major blows too. So don’t be angry mathboy :cry: I just said it out of frustration and anger.</p>

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Wow… does it really matter what ONE person says over the Internet?</p>

<p>^^ She kind of has a legitimate concern, Maharba. There are plenty of legitimately idiotic attitudes around Berkeley, and a lot of people look down on certain majors. Sad but true. Might stem from the fact that engineering at Berkeley is far more super-selective than other majors, and correspondingly there are engineers who conclude the other majors are all relatively flaky.</p>

<p>Also – KitKatz, I wasn’t irritated at you (I doubt I ever could be!), I was expressing irritation at those who degrade subjects with really no basis to do so. Some major elitism can be fun and dandy, and I partake in that sort of thing from time to time, but when taken to extremes it’s pretty repulsive.</p>

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<p>Now while you have a legitimate concern, Maharba does have a good point – not everyone (though many) at Berkeley is going to hate on your major.</p>

<p>KitKatz, you really don’t think those Wharton kids are going to be A LOT more arrogant to other majors?</p>

<p>Rexte sounds like a member of a business fraternity. Most business majors are pretty chill and don’t bash on other majors.</p>

<p>^ Yeah, they will be arrogant, but they wouldn’t think international affairs is a completely useless major because many of them, actually the most successful ones (Huntsman) have to take classes from that department! Plus you don’t have that big range of academic performance there as Berkeley and that makes a big difference.</p>

<p>Besides, I’m not really against arrogance. I think that arrogance, in small doses, is fine. I also think that it’s fine for EECS and Wharton kids to take more pride in their major, because those schools are intensely competitive and difficult to get in. But there is a major difference between having pride with one’s own major and being condescending toward other majors, calling it “useless”. While I’m okay with people saying that one major is “better” than the other, cuz everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion, as implied in “better”, I’m not okay when the it becomes more objective–“useless”.</p>

<p>Thanks mathboy :slight_smile: I’m glad you not angry with me. And I trust your words on that.</p>

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<p>Neither do all Berkeley students. Most Berkeley students will probably think you’re really really smart, actually, given you’re probably one of the better students coming to the school. Nevertheless, among the upper class of UCB academic students, there are both idiots and wonderful people. Look for the wonderful ones, and ignore the idiots! In such a large school, there’s a slim chance everyone you meet will be foolish.</p>

<p>^“Most Berkeley students will probably think you’re really really smart”</p>

<p>“In such a large school, there’s a slim chance everyone you meet will be foolish”</p>

<p>I really hope so!!! way to go mathboy…you have succeeded in making me not rethink over my reasons for chosing berkeley :)</p>

<p>Yup! Think of UC Berkeley as a little city. Surely you can only hang out with a small subset, and you can choose the right subset if you so please.</p>

<p>Honestly, I’m starting to be a little skeptical on the whole “I don’t want to go to Stanford because I’m going to be in debt” bit.</p>

<p>I came to Cal because I was interested in the research done by its faculty. It seemed like there was just research being done everywhere and I’m really interested in all of it. There are also so many classes I want to take and so many things I want to learn that 4 years is just not enough. I think I want to stay in college forever >.> .</p>

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<p>I totally know how you feel. So many opportunities, so little time… :D</p>