Really cocky friend with high SAT score and low GPA

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This. It’s not even a big deal.</p>

<p>^ also, I forgot to mention. When I was fed up with him at the beginning of this year, I did stop talking to him. As a result, his snide downplaying comments toward me increased during class, whenever I would contribute to class discussion or I was talking to another student. I know most people would just say to ignore it, but it really did get to me because I do care about him. I also think a big reason as to why he would make all those mean comments after I stopped talking to him is because he does want to effect me since he doesn’t like the idea of me not being his friend. I could be wrong though.</p>

<p>i think he likes you :)</p>

<p>^hahaha. Not again :]

Some guys act indifferent to compensate. This guy I know lost his mom in 6th grade, and he would tell people that he didn’t even cry when she died. </p>

<p>Regardless of what he says, I’m sure the death had some sort of psychological effect on him (even if he’s unconscious of it). </p>

<p>However, if he’s a jerk to you, you should just stop being friends with him. But maybe he really does like you. And he’s a …sadist?</p>

<p>^^ Haha, he did like me a lot, for a while. One of my teachers who I’m really close to told me he thinks that too since he’s always making fun of me in class. I actually asked him yesterday if he still liked me, and he said kind of, not really. He likes this sophomore girl too, which is closer to his age, but she is totally uninterested in dating anyone at all haha.</p>

<p>I agree - there is no reason for you to continue to be friends with this kid. It’s nice that you care about him, and I think his attitude towards you stems from his attachment to you because like you said, you are his only friend. If you stop talking to him, he’ll make “snide comments” at you to get your attention back. Keep ignoring him and maybe he’ll stop and realize that you are not willing to take his BS, but at the same time willing to talk to him about his problems.</p>

<p>Is he being sarcastic/teasing or just mean?</p>

<p>^^ it did get to a bad cycle actually… he was really depressed at one point, and started lying to me that he tried to commit suicide but later admitted he never did because “he’s too much of a coward”. He’s been a lot better this past year though. He really is a good person, I truly believe that. He does have problems, we all do. Obviously there is a long story to everyone. My problem right now isn’t weather I want to stay friends with him or not, because I do. The last message I sent him today was that if he really feels that way about me (the comment about how I don’t deserve to exist but I still do) then I don’t know why were friends, and if he really believes that there is nothing I can do. He never responded back. That’s something entirely different. My main question here is… how do i deal with his cockiness/ pretentious attitude/ getting into top colleges? I know most of you have said not to worry about it, and that he won’t, and even if he does it doesn’t matter, which it really doesn’t because it doesn’t effect me… I guess I know I really shouldn’t let me bother me. I’ll try not to let it, but at the moment it does.</p>

<p>^ He’s both, but more so just being mean.
When he’s sarcastic/ teasing, it doesn’t offend me. I’m just talking about his blatantly mean comments.</p>

<p>Sounds like just a bunch of cries for help. Just ignore it (not him). He’ll grow out of his immaturity.</p>

<p>Hmm interesting case. I think the best way to deal with guys like him is to show empathy. Despite how cruel his blatantly mean statements may appear, I’m pretty sure you can ascertain that his statements probably don’t have much truth to them.</p>

<p>^^Sound advice. Maybe he’ll stop with the attitude when he gets those college letters. I hope he applied to safety schools.</p>

<p>haha I dont think anyone here wants to take 7APS ad all that crap just for the sake of learning. They all do it because it looks good on transcript. I see nothing wrong with the guy’s attitude about the online classes.</p>

<p>I can understand your frustration but I feel sorry for this guy. If anything like this happened to me, I dont think I will be any better off than he is. :(</p>

<p>After my classmate’s mom died he just completely stopped trying and now his life goal is to join the military. He always comes to school in those uniforms.</p>

<p>^ That’s REALLY weird… my friend’s told me he is applying to West Point (I don’t think he still is, but he mentioned it at one point)</p>

<p>We go to a private school, so you can’t wear whatever uniform you want… and he does still try and that isn’t his life goal… but it’s just odd.</p>

<p>’ he was really depressed at one point, and started lying to me that he tried to commit suicide but later admitted he never did because “he’s too much of a coward”</p>

<p>Sounds like he was seriously depressed and was doing his best to signal to you, his friend, that he needed professional help. Saying this as a person with a doctorate in psychology who also was suicidal when I was young.</p>

<p>If he says anything like that again, please let the GC and his father/guardian know. Most people who kill themselves do say things beforehand that indicate they are considering suicide. Unfortunately, many people ignore such words because they erroneously think that someone who’s talking about suicide won’t kill themselves.</p>

<p>I also agree with the people here who suggest that he’s still reacting to his mother’s death. Neither you nor your friend have the ability to diagnose whether he’s depressed. More than likely, he could benefit from some professional help since losing a parent is difficult for anyone – including for middle aged adults – and many people benefit from getting some help with their grief. Losing a parent during adolescence – a difficult time for most people – would be even more difficult than losing a parent during many other periods of one’s life.</p>

<p>Instead of shooting down your friend, you would be much more helpful if you helped ensure that he has safety and match schools that he’d love to attend. Yes, he’s unlikely to get into HPYS, something that’s true for everyone. However, I don’t see how your telling him that is helping him.</p>

<p>I did not shoot him down when he was depressed. I did tell him that he needed to tell his dad or someone or else I would have to tell for him only because I care. He isn’t depressed anymore- that was last year. I did suggest he get professional help, he didn’t want it. I suggested he maybe get some antidepressants, he refused.</p>

<p>The reason I am telling him he is unlikely/ doesn’t deserve it is because he needs a reality check. It’s kind of what I do as a friend because no one else does- he get’s wayyy too cocky and puts every one else down. He is smart, but he needs to not let it get to his head, and think just because he’s smart he can get whatever he wants.</p>

<p>You don’t need to shoot him down. He’ll get a reality check when he gets his college acceptances/rejections. </p>

<p>You don’t need to keep being friends with him if he gets on your nerves.</p>

<p>Did you tell his dad or an administrator at your school when he was talking about suicide? Your telling him to get help isn’t enough. He needs to be evaluated by a professional. Letting responsible adults know when a friend is talking about suicide isn’t betraying a friend, but may be saving their life. You aren’t qualified to know whether a person is serious or not when they’re discussing suicide.</p>

<p>There’s also a big chance that he’s still depressed now. He may not even realize he is. Turning points in people’s lives – and getting ready to go to college is a turning point – can cause the resurfacing of grief due to previous losses.</p>

<p>you have a point about the reality check.</p>

<p>I know he needed help, and i was going to tell his dad if he didn’t talk to his dad, but he did talk to his dad about him being depressed. I was always there for him, and that’s all he wanted. I know I wouldn’t be betraying him- i had another friend who almost died of alcohol poisoning and i told the school who told his parents and of course he hated me, he might still- we haven’t talked since. I really regreted it at first but I’d rather know that his parents are aware and that he’s safe. The past year at school he seems a lot happier ( he always used to seem depressed).</p>

<p>I have a friend just like that. Last year, I worked my butt of in physics and I got a C+, he went to sleep in almost all the class and still manage to scrape a A+. I won’t mind if he was nice, but he brags about it way too many times.
So I told him to shut up, and that was that.</p>

<p>Well you don’t particularly sound like a saint either. So what if he’s lazy? You know people outside CC aren’t all that studious. Some kids just like to get by. He seems like a really smart kid IMO, and I know quite a few kids like him, average GPA but stellar SAT scores. It’s kinda pathetic how you seem to look down on him because of this. So maybe he won’t get into HYP or the like, but who are you to say he doesn’t deserve it? I find it absolutely horrible when I hear people say “oh s/he doesnt even deserve to get in there.” you know what? i hope he does get in. hopefully he’ll prove you and everyone else wrong.</p>