<p>hello everyone, i posted this post in the scea thread, bu only two people answered! and this is very important so i am removing it here!! please everyone answer it so that i will know what i should do, that is why it is important that you answer!</p>
<p>i am a student from a very different(at least in turkey) high school!
and i will scea yale too. but my junior year grades really suck, and my sats are not great but i am an international student!! and i am in the IB Diploma program!! i will tell you my scores but please dont make fun of it, because i saw some people's scores and i was shocked, i could not believe that i will be competing against them!! but anyways i am intl...</p>
<p>satI: read 540, writ 570 and math 630
satII: us history 580 and mathIc 590
toefl: 267 out of 300</p>
<p>and my last year's gpa was 4.69 out of 5.00</p>
<p>so what do you think? do you think i still have a chance?
please everyone answer me because it is really very important for me!!
thanks</p>
<p>well, i have been to the states for one year as an exchange student as well, between 2004-2005...</p>
<p>and i am in the IB diploma program...</p>
<p>so do you think i still should aplly scea?
and btw i have wanted yale for 5 years now!!
i mean i am kind of obsessed with it, but...
really people can everyone please tell me his/her idea about it, because i will need everyone's view(idea) to make a decision!!!</p>
<p>and i am kurdish!!
so i am part of the minority group in turkey!
and i think you guys know the kurds' plight in turkey!!</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, your scores are WAY under Yale's mid-50th range of scores and you lack some unique talent or characeristic that sets you apart. The fact that you're part of a minority group won't fulfill that requirement so you'll most likely be rejected. If you retake the SAT's this October and get your score up to ~2200, then I think you can make a much more convincing case with your application. Good luck!!!</p>
<p>I'm gonna be perfectly honest: increase those scores DRAMATICALLY or give up right now. IB is good, but not something that sets you above others. You offer something unique in being a Kurd, but quite honestly Intl. admissions are harder than in the states. Pick some other schools or study like there is no tomorrow, Yale will not admit you with those scores.</p>
<p>I'm not a student or anything at Yale, but okay...</p>
<p>You are doing great for an intl student! Don't think that you're not! If they have quotas, you will certainly get in.
By quotas, I mean if you need 1500 Caucasians, 200 African-Americans, and have 200 Asian-Americans, then theres 100 spots left over. Even if that 1501 Caucasian got a 2300, they need to fill the quotas. So if you got a 2000, then you would get in ahead of that 2300 Caucasian.
The admissions system weighs it more, so females get a few extra points, and minorities get extra points. You're ahead there. And just because you don't have a 2200 doesn't mean you won't get in. Just get involved in leadership stuff, study for some better grades and retake the SAT/ACT one more time. Explain some of your extra things and you'll have a better chance.</p>
<p>I'm going to have to agree with drummer. The SAT's are just too low. Fix those. I'm not really as impressed with IB (bad summer experience), but the program seemed like more work than difficulty. I would recommend curriculars and thinking of abilities you have; languages or whatever you can think of.</p>
<p>I'm not too familiar with the Kurd plight. I know that they're fighting constantly for autonomy, but what area, because I think it's just mainland Turkey, right?</p>
<p>bauer......racial quotas are illegal. Bakke vs. Board of Regents of UC Davis. Intl admissions are HARDER b/c mroe people are going for the same few spots.</p>
<p>they are trying to do a diversity program. I wasn't sure about that, so I e-mailed about my minority status to see how that affects me. Yale doesn't have "open" racial quotas (according to some sources)</p>