Recap of first semester as a student on the prehealth track.

Hi! I am currently a freshman at NYU, pursuing a biology major as part of the 7-year BA/DDS program. I’ll be going over the prerequisite classes I took last semester; Principles of Biology I and General Chemistry I. If you want me to go over the CORE requirement courses that I took (Writing the Essay and First Year Seminar), let me know.

Principles of Biology I:
This course utilizes the 11th edition of Campbell Biology, and covers most of the first 26 chapters. The professors that taught the course during my semester were Professors Duncan Smith & David Fitch. Both were great lecturers, and were clear with what would appear on the exams and what wouldn’t. However, both had a tendency to ramble about topics that didn’t concern much with what we were supposed to be tested on, but this did not detract much from the overall learning experience. Smith taught material that appeared on the first two exams, whereas Fitch taught material that mainly appeared on the final. According to many people in my class, Smith’s exams seemed to be easier than Fitch’s, which was reflected via the averages. The averages for Smith’s exams were a 74 and 74.8, whereas the average for Fitch’s final was a 72.4. Smith’s exam questions were straightforward and concise, but Fitch had questions that were extremely lengthy. However, both test you on how well you understand the concepts, not how well you memorize definitions and processes. For example, it wasn’t uncommon for Smith to ask questions like what the expected result was if a process were mutated, or what would happen if a gel electrophoresis did not go as expected.
Moving on, the homework assigned in recitations were good practice for the exams; I noticed questions on the second midterm and final that were very similar to questions on the homework assignments. The lectures were also recorded, so if you had trouble with certain material you could always go back and rewatch the lectures. And yes, this means that attendance in lectures isn’t mandatory (since the lectures are available online), but you get 3 points added to your overall grade if you attend 80% of the lectures. The textbook was also a great studying tool, but Smith and Fitch did not cover all aspects of certain chapters. So, you should primarily focus on what was covered during the lectures, and use the textbook as reinforcement. They also upload old exams on their website (NYU classes), so that’ll help as well in regard to studying.
The tests consist of 36 multiple choice and 7 open-ended questions. Multiple choice questions are worth 2pt each, and the open-ended questions are 4pt each (and have multiple parts). The open-ended questions tend to be hard, and really test how well you grasp the material. They might include problems that weren’t on the sample exams or homework - or something never discussed in lecture , so you will have to exclusively rely on your understanding of the concepts in order to answer the question. You get 1 hour and 45 minutes to take the test.
The recitations for this course serve to reinforce material taught during lecture, but it truly comes down to who you have as your TA. Your TA can pretty much make or break how well you do in the course. My first TA was insane in regard to grading homework assignments (if your answer didn’t exactly match the one provided in the key you’d get points taken off), but luckily he was replaced by a TA that was much much MUCH more lenient with grading. I’ve heard similar stories from my friends who had TAs that were brutal graders, but there were also TAs that were extremely easy graders (like everyone would get 100s for participation and homework grade averages would be high). Homework also consists of a decent portion of your grade, as it is worth 20%. For some people, it can be a difference between an A and an A-/B+.
The three exams are each worth 25%, and participation in recitation accounts for 5%. Exam scores usually get posted a week after they were taken, on NYU classes. Basically, they post all the grades on an excel sheet in the resources section, and the listed grades correspond to assigned grade codes. You can find this grade code in your NYU classes gradebook. This year, the curve was lenient despite the exam averages being high (I heard they’re usually in the 60s or low 70s). The professors said that the average (which was a 76) would be curved to a B-, and that approximately 50% of the class would receive a grade of a B- or higher. However, around 2/3 of the class received a B- or higher, 30% getting an A- or higher. The curve worked so that a 90+ was an A, 86+ was an A-, 83+ was a B+, 79+ was a B, 75+ was a B-, etc. They also don’t round up your overall grades, so if you get a 89.5 or 89.8 as your overall grade - you will be receiving an A-. Also something to note is that they’ll never curve down your grades, so if everyone gets As, it won’t be curved to follow a set distribution.

See my comment for information about General Chemistry I.

General Chemistry I:
This course utilizes the 8th edition of Silberberg’s Chemistry textbook; this textbook is only necessary for the homework assignments. The course is taught by John Halpin, who I believe has been teaching the course for the past twenty or so years. In my opinion, he was a GREAT lecturer, and made chemistry seem a lot easier than it really is. He also provides lecture notes (that you have to pay $13 for) that guide you throughout his lectures and have practice problems. They were extremely helpful, and made reviewing for exams much easier. The course covered chapters 1-12, except 11, but since we fell behind we didn’t get to finish chapter 12. The midterm averages were a 82.3 and a 63.9. The first midterm was very easy, and Halpin said it was the highest midterm 1 average in recent years. However, the second midterm was a mess. He ended up having to add 10 points to everyone’s midterm (so the average became a 73.9), and spent half a lecture ranting about our scores. I’m pretty sure he said word for word that “[he was] disgusted by our grades”. However, Halpin does have a policy where the lowest midterm gets dropped, so a lot of people were saved from having the second midterm tanking their course grade. I can’t speak about the final yet because grades haven’t been posted yet (!!!).
The recitations were useful as the TAs go over questions that the class has about material covered in lectures, in addition to homework problems (which were useless by the way, since some of Halpin’s material disagrees with certain topics in the textbook). In comparison to Bio, the TAs were a lot more helpful, and seemed to know what they were actually doing. There are also ten-minute quizzes at the end of every recitation, but they are not difficult at all. However, this means that you must stay up-to-date with what was covered in lectures and not fall behind.
The tests have five questions, usually four “math” problems and one vocab section. You get 1 hour and 45 minutes to take the test…The four “math” problems have multiple steps, and sometimes latter steps depend on what your answer was for the first step. A really nice thing though is that if you get the first part wrong, but manage to do the rest of the steps correctly (using the correct formulas, sig figs, etc.), you will only lose points for the first step. Halpin also provides old exams for practice.
The exam scores get posted the Sunday after the test was taken (Friday). You can find the scores on the 10th floor of the Silver Center. Scores are posted on a wall and correspond to the last five digits of your NYU ID. Halpin also posts an answer key with worked-out solutions.
There are also mandatory PTEs (peer tutoring experiences) that account for a small portion of your grade. You must attend 6/10 sessions to receive credit. These sessions are led by tutors that have received at least an A- in the course, and the assignments handed out are modeled after exam questions. You spend an hour doing the assignment with your peers in small groups, and if you have any questions you can just ask the PTE leader. In my opinion, the PTE assignments were much more useful for studying for the exams, as they directly reflect what Halpin wants you to know, whereas the homework questions from the textbook do not always match up with material that Halpin covers.
Last but not least, there is the lab which is taught by Professor Rugg. At the beginning of the lab, you take a 3-question quiz about the lab you’re performing, so you must read the lab manual in advance. There are also online quizzes that consist of 40% of your individual lab grades, that must be submitted by the day before you have lab. Rugg usually spends 10 minutes explaining how to do the lab, then leaves it up to the lab instructors to guide you for the rest of the lab. The labs are pretty straight forward, and the lab instructors will help you if you have any difficulties. Unlike high school chemistry, you do not need to write any lab reports. You just fill out data sheets, do some flowcharts, and answer the post-lab questions. There are some labs where utilizing LoggerPro for graphs is necessary. Also, the lab time is allotted for four hours and fifteen minutes, but most of the time I got out after two hours and thirty minutes. Make sure you spend your time in the lab efficiently, and have a good lab partner.
In regard to grading, your lab grade accounts for 25% of your overall course grade. 75% of the your lab grade consists of the individual lab grades, and 25% accounts for what you get on the lab final - which is a mix of multiple choice and open-ended questions (format varies from year to year). The rest of the overall course grade depends on arbitrary weightings. Quizzes make up 11.25%, homework is 5%, PTE attendance is 3.75%, each midterm is 17.5%, and the final is worth 20%. The overall course does not depend on a curve, it depends on a fixed scale. There are a possible 400 points you can achieve in the course, and getting a 370+ will get you an A, 350+ for an A-, 330+ for a B+, 305+ for a B, 285+ for a B-, 265+ for a C+, etc. He says he reserves the right to lower the cutoffs, but he’ll never raise them.

Whew, that was a lot of information. Well anyways, PM me or comment if you have any other questions, and happy holidays! Enjoy your winter break, and good luck with college applications if you’re in the process of applying!

Minor details that I missed:

  • Bio: your lowest homework grade gets dropped
  • Chem: in addition to your lowest midterm grade getting dropped, your lowest lab and quiz grade get dropped as well.

@Eminem99 I am currently a high school senior and just got accepted to NYU BA/DDS Program. It is definitely one of my top choices. However, I am worried about the 3.50 GPA requirement to remain in the program, since it seems fairly difficult to get a good grade in these classes… Also, do the pre-dental students meet up with one another in school? (Is there a pre-dental society or something like that?)

@cashew18 congrats on the acceptance! A 3.5 isn’t hard to maintain, since only half of your classes for any given year are pre-reqs. The other half are your CORE requirements, and you can find easy professors for these classes via ratemyprofessor. Also there is a pre-dental club at NYU, but from what I know they don’t meet very often. If you do join the BA/DDS program at NYU, make sure you find a buddy within the program. Let me know if you have any other questions.

@Eminem99 I am very very likely to join the program next fall!!! One more question, I have taken several science AP courses (AP Biology, AP Physics 1, AP Chemistry…) during high school. I was wondering if those will be able to be counted towards the requirements since it is stated on the website that pre-health students cannot apply these credits?! :frowning: