<p>ANYONE OU THERE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCES AS ar recruited athlete.
my daughter is being recruited by 2 ivies
want to hear what athletes need for SAts</p>
<p>I am being recruited. You need an AI of 170 for football at harvard.</p>
<p>Was it really necessary to post this same thread in 3 different forums?
probably better luck just bumping the same one IMO</p>
<p>Not too sure if the Harvard forum will help you much anway considering you stated in the other threads that your daughter is being recruited by Yale and Cornell</p>
<p>congrats on your daughter's athletic accomplishments! As long she's not too far from the schools' SAT/GPA ranges, she should be fine. Take advantage of having a free ride (basically) into top schools!</p>
<p>well EXCUSE ME!!!
Just looking for advice.
figured if i post in multiple forums some KIND sole will direct me to the right place and some KIND sole did from THE YALE forum</p>
<p>moms like to brag.</p>
<p>Give 4xprep a break! She/he is just trying to get some advice. 4xprep - stick with the Yale Forum. We're really nice.</p>
<p>lol some "kind sole" lolol</p>
<p>If you daughter is being recruited your best source of information is the coaches. They know, more or less what it takes to qualify academically. When it comes to specific students, the coaches talk to the admissions office about their potential recruits. If she did not have a reasonable chance, they would not waste their time recruiting her. </p>
<p>Beyond that, there is an interaction between the influence of the sport, the coach, and the impact she is expected to make on the team. There is an Ivy floor, but the colleges usually want true athletic stars to go that low. So her real chances depend on the details of her situation, which the coaches will know.</p>
<p>I just told you 4xprep, stop starting the same post.
the AI for athletes is 171.
SATs don't matter
Its the AI.</p>
<p>ALSO: most sports use satII or satI and double that score.</p>
<p>1MX you are wrong! What you are saying applies greatly to football players. For female athletes an AI of 171 is not going to get them in. Having gone through the recruiting process with my daughter last year at 4 Ivies I can tell you all the coaches were SAT score oriented and there is no doubling. Not one discussed AI and when my D asked Harvard told her the AI was not used for the female non-revenue sports. Again 4xprep stick with the Yale and Parents Forum - we'll help you. My D, #1 in her class, NM Scholar and a great athlete blew off Harvard - is it any wonder?</p>
<p>1MX isn't even into college. Stick with the people who have already gone through this and know what they are talking about. afan above is right on point.</p>
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<p>Advice like this proves why you should talk directly to the coach involved. My daughter was recruited for a non-revenue sport at H and was told the AI is (most definitely!) used to help the coaches rank the recruited athletes for submission to the admissions office.</p>
<p>The AI is used as a standard because the Ivy League rules require it. What my D was told was that it doesn't mean much for the women's sports. A female athlete will not get in with an AI of 171, while a football player will. The coach involved told my D that his recruits would have to have top scores and grades. Basically meaning that a female athletic recruit was not going to get a big break with admissions. We later heard from a female athlete currently at H that they set high academic standards for the the non- revenue women sports to bolster the average AI of the athletes, so that they could accept weaker candidates for some of the other sports. Here is a quote from the Harvard athletic site for my D's sport:
"we typically look for individual SAT I & II scores above 700. We like to see high school grades in the top five percent of the class or equivalent while taking the most challenging courses".
Now I ask, how is that any different than Harvard's regular admissions standards? I guarantee you, you will not find those comments for the male sports.</p>
<p>I am absolutely right for football.
The cutoff is one standard median below, 171.
They will also take your sat IIs or sat, and double that when factoring your index.</p>
<p>This may not be true of less competitive sports, but it definitely is for football.</p>
<p>Thelongroad is correct concerning 700 SATs. The coaches want full academic credentials, as well as the talent to fill a need on their team. So, do your research on team rosters to determine which schools need to fill your daughter's position in the incoming year. And remember, often time the coaches' interest change as their top recruits are lured elsewhere (money school?) in September and October.</p>
<p>Football takes 35
Most all other sports take 6</p>
<p>if you're not playing fball, lacrosse, or hockey, you better have some great SATs, because when there is that much competition, and coaches can only take 5 or 6 ppl, they're gonna take the kids they know that will get through admission's</p>
<p>How to determine AI?</p>
<p>thelongroad - what sport does your daughter play? my daughter has just begun the recruiting process with the ivies and others - for basketball - she has a 2100 on her SAT's and is top in her class - we have been contacted by some of the coaches but I would love any and all advice I can get to help her realize her dream</p>
<p>Football works on a banding system. The floor is 170 or 171 for the entire league. If you are under that number, you are "ineligible" as far as the ivies are concerned. For other sports I believe it works differently. I'm not 100% sure, but from what I have heard the average AI for the team has to be within one standard deviation from the university's average as a whole. That is one reason why coaches "boost" their team average by allowing players who will probably never play but have very high test scores join the team. The higher scores offset the lower scores of the "star players." Again, i'm not positive on this but I believe this is how it works, at least for some sports.</p>