Reed Freshman Willing and Ready to Take Questions!

<p>So, I still have another week before I go back to Reed and some time before classes start again. I've been lurking about and just realized that, huh, maybe someone has some questions they'd like to ask. I know that I did. ;)</p>

<p>Fire away!</p>

<p>Hi !</p>

<p>I'll be a Reed freshman in August and I want to study Economics major. What're the typical courses that I need to take ? What are the courses that I need to take in the freshman year and usually which course do students take first ? Humanities 101 or Economics 201 ? </p>

<p>I heard that students usually take 7 to 9 units every years. Is the thesis counted as 2 units ? So in the last year, we need to complete the thesis and 4 or more units ? </p>

<p>I imagine that Reed is an environment where you never stop studying ? Is it really true ? and if you reallyyyy want to get good grade, how hard you need to study ? can you describe for me the feeling, the asmostphere at Reed ?</p>

<p>Thank you</p>

<p>p/s and also what should I be more prepared b4 I go to Reed ? any mental preparations ? any skills ? etc</p>

<p>How did your high school work prepare you (or not) for Reed? </p>

<p>(That is, how did you adjust to the different workload and other aspects of Reed? Anything take you by surprise?)</p>

<p>qtranvu- Congratulations on your Reed acceptance!</p>

<p>I'm not totally sure for Econ (I'm a classics major myself) but I do know that the freshman schedule tends to be pretty basic. Everyone has to take HUM 110 (and its a year long, so you have it both semesters). Then, I strongly recommend taking one of the intro sciences (Physics, Bio, or Chem) because they fulfill a group requirement and, as much as a pain as they can be, its much better to get them out of the way your Freshman year. Then you'd probably take ECON 201. Most freshman only take 3 classes (HUM is 1.5 units, thus 3 classes would be 3.5 units) first semester. However, it is possible to take four classes (4.5 units) first semester. I did and managed just fine, although it was a lot of work. </p>

<p>In conclusion, I recommend taking science, econ, and if you want another class try to pick one to fill a group requirement. However, as a freshman you don't have a ton of options unless you want to petition into a class. </p>

<p>I'm not exactly sure how many units thesis is, but yes. I think you'd take thesis each semester (its yearlong) as well as two other classes. Hopefully by then there isn't a lot of scramble for group requirements.</p>

<p>Ahh, the atmosphere. Well, I think some of it depends on the person. I have friends who flail a bit, have to skip readings sometimes, and end up having to skip an occasional class. On the other hand, I've managed to do every page of hum reading and basically all of my other classes readings, keep up on my work, and manage to be done with homework by 10 o'clock at night on weekdays. I also seem to have more free time than I know what to do with. However, there is always more work you could be doing, something I've learned more than over by attending Reed. For every page of assigned reading, I feel like I could be re-reading, thinking, and researching. There is definitely a stress culture at Reed and the workload is quite tough. Finals were somewhat killer, mainly because the end of semester crunch is large enough that it showed in the attitude and physicality of the students (people went a few days looking a mixture of dead/horrified). I know that Freshman year is the easiest too (regardless of what it may feel like sometimes) but at the same time, Reed seems to do a good job of preparing people. You aren't expected to come into school ready to handle a ten page paper, a five page paper, and three tests all due within 3 days of eachother (although this will inevitably happen), you're just expected to be willing to learn and ready to work harder than you ever have. </p>

<p>As to grades, I don't really know what my grades are. I like to think I'm doing well, but I haven't checked them (although I may be checking when I get back just to see how I did). Its sort of strange suddenly not having grades on papers and whatnot, but kind of nice at the same time. My professors have, for the most part, given me more comments on my work than I ever recieved before and I feel like I'm improving. One thing to keep in mind is that good grades in high school were probably higher than "good grades" at Reed will be. Reed is a grade deflated school and I do believe the average gpa has been something like a 2.9 for some time now. Howevver, I like to think I'm doing well. Keep up with your readings, don't skip conference (even if you haven't read) and do your best would be my best advice besides trying not to panic (which can be rough sometimes).</p>

<p>The atmosphere at Reed is very interesting, to say the least. One thing that's noted again and again is that Reed isn't the most friendly school. While a lot of people may be friendly, I've found that making eye contact while walking or smiling and waving at strangers is sometimes met with a scowl, sometimes a glare, and often times the other person will look the other way. Sometimes the stress dominates. However, this isn't to say that Reed has a bad atmosphere. Generally, Reedies seem to be laid back and quirky and Reed sort of reflects this. There is something undeniably geeky at the school and I've never met so many people who are passionate about academics before. The most competition occurs over who has the most work (a frequent game my friends and I play, one time someone started by saying "I have so much work I shouldn't even be eating right now" and it led into a 45 minute discussion about how we all had too much work and not enough time, which was of course silly, since we obviously had 45 minutes to waste). In the end, the atmosphere at Reed is hard to put into words. Sometimes its unbearable, but most of the time I wouldn't change it for the world. </p>

<p>I'd say the best way to get prepared is to read for pleasure. I wish I would have done more of this because 1) there's no time to do it at Reed (well... there's a bit... but not as much as I'd like and 2) it would be a good idea to get your reading speed as fast as you can get it before arriving. However, I think your acceptance is evidence that the admissions people feel you are prepared for the Reed environment. Really, I'd say just make the best of your time and enjoy what you can. :)</p>

<p>Heh, well, high school was high school. High school prepared me for Reed in the sense that I hated it so much I knew I wanted to go to college somewhere where people actually cared about academics and weren't using education as a means to an end. All in all, the high school classes that prepared me best were those that emphasized ideas and discussion. </p>

<p>My own adjustment to the Reed workload wasn't nearly as horrifying as I thought it would be. The second and third weeks of school (first week was very light) left me feeling overwhelmed but I quickly adjusted into it. I guess my biggest surprises came during finals. We have a reading "week", a few days when there isn't any class so we can study. I was surprised to realize just how stressed/tired I was by the time I got there. I ended up sleeping 9-10 hours a night + taking 2-3 hour naps during that time and was still completely listless. During most of the other "free" time I studied. I'd never felt anything like that before... however... now that I've been through it once I'm hopefully not going to be near as worried later on. Its all sort of a live and learn kind of thing. </p>

<p>The other thing that took me by surprise was how much Greek I could forget three days before the final. XP</p>

<p>Wow... thanks for your response! xD</p>

<p>Hee hee, you're welcome. XP I'm a bit on the wordy side, methinks.</p>

<p>Regarding the preparation for Reed, they're gonna send you Iliad sometimes during the summer. Finish the book. And get some time management skills. If you don't you gonna end up like me. I didn't do half my readings, skipped 3 (or was that 4?) conferences, wrte extremely crappy papers and even missed a paper conference coz I was too embarassed to face my professor. not because I didn't give a damn. I used to be up all night, trying to connect with the text, to cultivate some interest. I spent 7 hours a day with my hum books and still could not finish the readings. even after I finished I could not recall a single thing from it coz I was just reading the scrowls. my time management sucked. Dont try to do everything in single interval. Get ssome sleep. Don't be nocturnal. dont just stay there staring at the text for an hour. divide your time. don't try chemical stimulants. don't pull all nighters more than once a week. learn those skills. otherwise you'll get ****ed up just like me.</p>

<p>Yes,After reading Whitneylm and Cassius's replies, I feel that I know more about Reed now :D Thank you for your sincere advice. I will take them seriously and constructively .</p>

<p>Maybe it's good to come to Reed with a good attitude : to prepare ahead what you want to study, prepare for the life there, so that you can adapt well and quickly to it. I myself had an experience with this. In the past two years, when I studied high school in Singapore. I knew that all I wanted was to go to U.S and study, knew that I needed to get good grades, SAT scores, good ECA records, etc. However, I did not prioritised my goals and my time management skill was also quite bad. I managed to complete everything I wanted to but sadly they're not up to my own expectation, not up to the best that I could do. </p>

<p>I think that it's good to come to Reed with a love for learning like Whitleylm. Reading from her previous posts, I knew that she got very high GPA, studied very hard and she seemed to enjoy studying :D . This makes the workload at Reed seemed lighter to her even when it was really a daunting task.</p>

<p>Talking about the all nighters and chemical stimulants, I think it's about discipline and the surrounding environment. Man likes to enjoy life, and to do what are comfortable to them,rather than doing things that require hard work such as reading Hum. I think it's experience, many painful lessons will tell us what we should do ( or what we have to do )</p>

<p>hahaha, I still have about 7 more months, hope that I can learn from your advice, and be ready when I go to Reed.</p>

<p>Looking forward to seeing all of you there.</p>

<p>Cheer !</p>

<p>Once again, thank you very much! :D</p>

<p>@ Whitneylm : You mentioned group requirement. What's group requirement ? And how many group requirements are there ?(for Econ). Is it compulsory to take a foreign language ? </p>

<p>and how's about employment in campus ? do most students work in campus and what types of works are there for student ?</p>

<p>If I studied Economics in high school, and feel that I have enough knowledge about introductory econ. Is there a chance that I can use my A level to get credit evaluation or sit for some exams and then Reed will reward me some units ? </p>

<p>Cassius also mentioned Conference ? how often is conference and what're the things do students do in conference ?</p>

<p>how's about the weather in Portland. I heard that it rains everyday and it's quite sad! Is it very cold in Portland ? where are you from ?</p>

<p>Also, is it easy to make friends at Reed ? I'm quite concerned about this bcos I'm an international student and will be very new to Reed's environment as well as to US's culture. I dun consider myself extrovert. I mean I can be friendly and sociable, but it also depends on the enviroment and the pp there. I prefer to have a group of closed friend that I know well rather than having many friends but not so closed.</p>

<p>qtranvu, "conference" is Reed's word for seminar. Many Reed courses are organized as or use conferences (seminars) taught by the so-called "Socratic method." Some, such has Hum 110 have a combination of large lectures and smaller conferences. Most of your interaction with faculty in that course will be in such conferences (seminars), which would meet 3 times per week (in addition to the 3 lectures per week--at least when I was there). When I was there, while science and language courses were typically a lecture or lecture+lab format, most courses in the social sciences (econ, polisci, sociology, anthro), were "conferences."</p>

<p>Perhaps confusingly, Reed also has something called "paper conferences." Those are simply meetings between student and faculty to discuss/review your most recent paper. In Hum 110, every paper was followed by such a paper conference, often very brief and cursory but sometimes more involved if there were problems or special issues of some kind. In other courses, paper conferences are generally optional.</p>

<p>qtranvu- </p>

<p>Group requirements are classes that everyone at Reed has to take to graduate. There are four groups and each group has different classes that fall under. Group A is Religion, Literature, Philosophy, Arts; Group B is History, Anthropology, Sociology, and Psychology; Group C is Natural Science; and Group D is Mathematics, Logic, Linguistics, Foreign Languages. There is also a "Group X" where you have to take 2 (I think it's 2) units that are outside your major and don't fulfil another group requirement. Each group requires 2 units and both units have to be in the same discipline. For example, I took Introduction to Judaism this semester. If I took a philosophy class, it would not fill my group A requirement. I'd need to take two different religion classes. However, I could decide I want to take 2 philosophy classes and use the religion class to apply to my Group X requirement. </p>

<p>Group requirements are different than major requirements. Major requirements are the individual classes you need to take to major in whatever you want to major in. There are also Divisional requirements depending on your divison. </p>

<p>You can find the major requirements for Econ here: <a href="http://academic.reed.edu/economics/academic/requirements.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://academic.reed.edu/economics/academic/requirements.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You can find the division requirements for the Division of History and Social Sciences (the one that Econ is in) here: <a href="http://web.reed.edu/academic/catalog/division_of_hss.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web.reed.edu/academic/catalog/division_of_hss.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And finally, you can read more about group requirements here: <a href="http://web.reed.edu/academic/catalog/educational_programs.html#degree%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web.reed.edu/academic/catalog/educational_programs.html#degree&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It sounds really complicated when I'm saying it, but it isn't nearly as strange as it sounds. Also, your freshman year your paired up with an advisor who can give you more information and help you make a schedule that's on track. </p>

<p>As to foreign language, since its in the same group as math or logic, you can take math or logic instead of needing a foreign language. However, you have to check to see if your division requires a foreign language or not. Some do, some don't. </p>

<p>I don't know quite as much about working because I don't have a job (yet!) however, I'll try to help. I have friends who work in the library and know people who work for Gray Fund (they take tickets at events, help out during events, clean up). I also know some people become certified van drivers, some work in the writing or science help centers, some become tutors... all sorts of things really. I've heard it isn't that hard to find a job, and I know that there's always a job fair in the first few weeks of school. </p>

<p>As to getting credit for classes taken in high school, Reed is really stingy with credits. For example, classes taken in high school can only count as "general credit" if they transfer. They can't fulfil any sort of requirment. Thus, I didn't even bother trying to get credit for my 8ish AP tests. However, Reed does offer several placement exams during Orientation Week, and Econ is one of them. So, you can take that exam and see if you place out. One warning, however, I've heard no one ever places out of Intro Econ... but its certainly worth a try!</p>

<p>I'm from Western Washington (State... not DC XD) so, I'm very used to the weather in Portland. The weather was really odd while school was in session (it was sunny, freezing, and terribly windy... the canyon even froze!) but has normalized since break started. I don't know about Portland, but Seattle is on its 25th (maybe 24th...) straight day of measurable percipitation. However, that being said, I like the rain a lot. A lot of the time "rain" in the Pacific Northwest means grey and a little bit drizzly. However, we have been getting poured on the past month or so. So, yeah, it does rain a lot, especially fall through winter and some bits in spring. However, what I've found is that when its nice its really beautiful. </p>

<p>Making friends at Reed is sort of a mixed bag. I had a really hard time with that this semester, but most of my inability to make friends has been my fault. A lot of the people I know have lots of friends/aquaintances so it is possible to make friends. However, you can't just expect friends to come to you. A lot of Reedies are introverted (I being one of them) and seem a bit socially awkward by nature. </p>

<p>That being said:</p>

<p>1) Make sure you meet people during Orientation Week. There's tons of events and fun things to do and this is where most people meet their initial batch of friends. Its generally through those friends that they meet more friends and yeah. For one reason or another I didn't do many social things during O-Week... and thus didn't meet anyone.</p>

<p>2) Get involved. This semester I'm going to look into auditioning for orchestra or chorus and helping more with theatre. There really is a lot to do at Reed and getting involved is one of the best ways to meet people. </p>

<p>3) Meet your floormies/dormies. You're going to be spending a lot of time with them and your floor is a great place to meet people. My closest friends all live on my floor and we do all sorts of things. For example, we usually eat breakfast as a floor on Monday-Wednesday-Friday and then all go to lecture together and all sit in the front row together. </p>

<p>4) That being said, no matter how cool your floor is, make sure you try to meet people outside your floor as well. </p>

<p>5) Don't worry! Like I said, I didn't meet people at O-Week, but I have friends. I didn't get involved right away, but there's always chances too. I didn't do many things for most of the semester, but near the end of the semester I became a bit more social and started meeting more people. There's tons of cool people at Reed, and there's sure to be some who would be great friends for you. </p>

<p>Also, for what its worth, there is an International Student Orientation and a lot of the International Students really seemed to bond with eachother during it. They've made friends who aren't International Students, of course, but the intial friendships made really seem to have lasted. During O-Week a lot of them sat together at meals and I often joined their group because they were all really cool.</p>

<p>Hi whitneylm,I know you're an international and probably cant help me with this question T<em>T but im going to ask anyway coz Im really worried right now...(and though those worries are useless since the app has been sent already) you see, qtrvu is a Vietnamese and was accepted with finaid T</em>T im also a Vietnamese in need of finaid, and applying RD. Do u know if they accept 2 people from the same country (and both request a large amount of money!)?
Two more questions to all the Reedies here :): what was the ultimate factor that got you into Reed? And what is the thing you like most about Reed?</p>

<p>Hi,everybody.I have really learnt a lot more from you and thanks for your information!</p>

<p>I'm also an international student like qtranvu.But I figure that I might major in psychology.So I'm wondering about research opportunities.I mean especially opportunities in summer.One of my friends in Grinnell,who is a biochemistry major,was a RA in UCI as a freshman and last summer in a research institute in NYC.And are there also lots of stuff like this?</p>

<p>Well,I seem unable to figure what college life is like.Can you briefly have a description of what you do in a typical day at Reed?And how many hours' sleep do you have mostly?I guess the workload is making sleep not enough for most students and that's unbearable for me!I can't imagine doing lots of reading and having discussions without ample sleep!And also,what are weekends like?Trapped in HUM textbooks?</p>

<p>And,as to nhyn's question.I'm not sure myself.But I don't think being in the same country with one who has been accepted will have much influence on you.Know what,Grinnell accepted 3 students in one high school in my city last year.Carleton admitted two in one school.All of them have received a significant amount of finaid.I don't think Reed will decline you just because they have already admitted one Vietnamese.Good luck! :)</p>

<p>one day in my life at reed(first semester)</p>

<p>8:55 wake up
9:00 hum lecture
10:00 shower & breakfast
11:00 Job(T/Th) classes(MWF)
12:00 classes
2:00 lunch/job
4:00 tennis/squash/gym /classes(Th/F)
5:00 Library/classes(F)
7:00 dinner/ juggling class (W)
8:00 library
3:00 sleep</p>

<p>and my earlier post (#7) is perfect epitome of 'stress culture' whitneylm was talking about. whining about your problems in front of strangers. :)</p>

<p>nhyn- I'm actually not an international student, but my feeling is that there's no way they wouldn't accept you just because you're also from Vietnam. College admissions is competitive and stressful, but once you have your app in you've done your best. My own feeling (this is somewhat idealistic, I know) is that Reed really does work to accept students they think will fit, regardless of where they're coming from. Of course things like aid play a part, but yeah. My two cents. I wouldn't worry about it. ;)</p>

<p>About getting into Reed... I was actually really surprised when it happened. There was one school I thought was my perfect fit (Whitman) and I interviewed for them, worked really hard with them, and talked with the adcom. I knew it was a reach... but thought I had a really good chance. Then, for some reason, my other apps were sort of stupidly chosen... lots of places I didn't want to go. I always thought Reed would be way too much of a reach and wasn't going to bother. Then, quite literally, three or four days before the app was due I realized that I really wanted to go to Reed and I'd never forgive myself if I didn't apply. I slopped the app together as quickly as I could and was missing some things (I never took any SATIIs, I didn't have a chance to try and interview, I didn't actually have a graded paper because my only papers that year were written for a community college where the professor didn't comment and graded them all together in a portfolio) and didn't spend time on others (my poor "Why Reed" essay was written in 20 minutes and I didn't have time to even reread it) because I was heavily involved in a play at school and had no time. So, heavens knows what made the admissions office think I was a good choice, but I'm sure as heck grateful they did. I like to think that my love of academics showed through but who knows. :P</p>

<p>My favorite part about Reed is the academic aspect. My professors area amazing and I've never been in a community where learning for the sake of learning is so heavily emphasized. Its amusing when my friends and I talk, we all have wildly different interests (most of my friends are science/math types whereas I'm a Classics major) but everyone of us has the subject or two where we have the geekiest moments...</p>

<p>regarzy~ I'm not completely sure about research opprotunities since I'm just a wee little freshman, but I've heard really good things about our psych department and the availibility of research and help to get research. Sorry I can't be more helpful on this subject...</p>

<p>As to a normal college day... hmm...</p>

<p>M-W-F</p>

<p>7:30- Wake Up
8:00- Breakfast with my group of friends (and generally studying for Greek quiz)
9:00- Hum lecture (first row!)
10:00- Physics lecture
11:00- Greek Class
12:00- Lunch
1:00- Religion Class
2:00- "study time" (I usually just went and hung out in Commons... or I went back to my dorm, set my alarm, and took a nap)
3:10- Hum Conference
4:30- Study Time (this sometimes turned into mindless internetting [livejournaling, facebooking, whatever I could use to procrastinate with] depending on the workload/what was most pressing/how tired I was)
5:30- Walk around dorm and find people to eat dinner with
6:30- Crack the books/get reading/get organized
[During this period I'd never be completely on task, usually I'd walk around the dorm every hour or so to see who else was off task, "hall parties" (where a bunch of people suddenly find themselves standing in the hall talking when they're supposed to be working) would often ensue.
9:30- Call it a night... try to do something I like (read/draw/maybe write)
10:30ish- Bed</p>

<p>The sleeping thing really depends on who you are. I have friends who like studying at night (or don't mind studying at night) and so they often stay up late. I can't focus at all after about 10 or so and so trying to work past that is meaningless. Thus, getting my work done by 10 is a priority and I do everything in my power to succeed. If I find its 11 or later and I still have a lot of work, I set my alarm for 6:30 or 7 and work then. Also, on T-Th my first class wasn't until 11 which gave me a lot of morning work time. </p>

<p>Weekends sort of depend on what's due. On Hum Paper weekends (Hum papers are due Saturdays at 5 PM) I always inevitably had a religion paper due as well. These were the only weekends I didn't feel like I had too much free time. Even after a Hum paper is due, there's fun to be had. I have quite a few friends who go to parties/dance parties on weekends, something I'm not into but they seem to like. I have friends who get out and about Portland. I've noticed Friday evenings are when people tend to relax and a lot of the time most people don't have to work Saturdays too much. Sunday tends to be the busiest of the days when everyone is buried in their text books. </p>

<p>So... from my own experience, the Reed freshman workload (I can't speak to later years as I know the work only increases...) can be unbearable... but it isn't usually too bad. Mind, this doesn't stop me from complaining about it when everyone else is... :P</p>

<p>
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Hum papers are due Saturdays at 5 PM

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This is a humane change from the old days when the papers were due at 12 noon sharp (in profs' mailboxes, with all papers being sealed in an envelope by someone).</p>

<p>What your schedule shows that's perhaps easy to overlook by students who are still in high school is that when you get to college, with classes held intermittently during the day, and at different hours on different days, it's really important nonetheless to regard most daytime hours as "working hours." If you do that, and are reasonably disciplined about it, then you usually won't have to stay up til all hours doing "homework." Instead, much of your reading/research/writing can be done during daylight (often between classes), though of course when there are tests or papers due almost inevitably you're going to be putting in longer hours. I also found it useful to have a work calendar or daily/weekly planner, so that I pretty much knew what I had to have done (how many pages of reading, etc.) before class and scheduled my worktime accordingly. This was especially useful in my first year, and it built a planning habit that helped in later ones.</p>

<p>Mackinaw~ Yikes! Yes, 5 is a humane change, I agree!</p>

<p>And, as to the planner thing... I really recommend it. In high school I was the sort who rarely wrote anything down and never really planned ahead. It worked just fine for me then because, well, it was high school. However, when I came to Reed I quickly realized that I needed something more substantial to keep me on track. I bought a planner but hated it. I have no idea why writing in a planner irritated me so much, but I never did it. Once I missed one of the assigned readings because of my lack of writing things down and decided I needed to organize and change immediatly. So, I started making lists. At the beginning of each week I pull out all my syllabi and write down each assignment. I also make special note of any papers/tests in the next two weeks and make sure I start drafting/studying before the night before its due. Then, at the bottom, I write any appointments I need to remember. It works really well and I've learned to take great satisfaction in crossing off things (especially papers).</p>

<p>That being said, I just remembered something. Everyone I know has had some kind of "wake-up call" while at Reed. Whether it be flunking a problem set or getting way behind in a class, everyone has struggled somewhere. Generally, if they take the wake up call things work out fine from there. I know, coming into Reed there were places I was unprepared. I also was really really bad at managing my time. However, my first paper due (which wasn't my Hum paper, it was a three page religion paper) was my wake up call. </p>

<p>I had been doing all my reading, but wasn't really focusing as much as I needed. In all honesty, it was only the second week of college and I was sort of flailing about. Then, this paper came up. I was really worried, but still sort of threw it together. My thoughts really weren't on the class. Lo and behold, the teacher said I needed to rewrite it. Now, this doesn't seem like a big deal, but the last time I did poorly on something "big" like that was in 7th grade, before I'd regained academic focus. And, I'm a bit of perfectionist (although, being a perfectionist at Reed is just asking for suffering) so, I was embarassed/ashamed/the whole nine yards. I was very greatful for the chance to rewrite and worked really hard on the next paper. And, really, changed my priorities. </p>

<p>The point in that story wasn't to try to brag (that would be lame) but to tell people that... well... practically everyone screws up somewhere. However, college is a chance for that. Don't beat yourself up if it happens, just re-evaluate your priorities, see what tripped you up, and move on the best you can.</p>

<p>thank you for all your replies :) they really help ^^</p>

<p>Yeah!Thanks a lot,indeed!</p>

<p>Whitneylm,when you said that a freshman selects three courses usually,I was a bit surprised.I thought it is at least four.So how many on average does a returning student have each semester?And how many classes do you have a week for each subject?</p>

<p>As to on-campus employment.In my finaid statement,the total amount for work is $700,But my friends who get into Grinnell or Carleton have got an minimum of 2000 dollars each year.Is it because that the academic workload is extremely heavy so that we won't have enough time for on-campus work?What kind of work does a freshman usually get?</p>