Reed-like qualities

<p>So I really really loved reed when I first discovered it, but then I realized how competitive it has become. Plus it is pretty expensive and I live in PA so transportation would be bad. Are there any other schools on the east coast that I would like? I already know about Marlboro and Sarah Lawrence.</p>

<p>You might check out Bard: Bard</a> College</p>

<p>What about Bennington or Hampshire</p>

<p>Check out Ohio Wesleyan.</p>

<p>Nope, Ohio Wesleyan doesn't even come close to being Reed-like. OWU is a nice school, but very different than Reed.</p>

<p>Other schools with Reed-like qualities besides those already mentioned: U of Chicago, Oberlin, Carleton, Macalester, Grinnell, Beloit, Earlham, Brown, the Johnston Center of the University of Redlands (although U of Redlands overall is not very Reed-like).</p>

<p>Huh? You disagreee with Ohio Wesleyan, but you suggest Beloit?!? You must have not looked at your college counselor books lately because Beloit seems to be much less selective than Ohio Wesleyan. Please take a look at Princeton Review's "Other schools to consider" for Ohio Wesleyan before you decide to bash a school.</p>

<p>Can you be a Ronald Reagan Republican and fit in at Reed (or would most people look at you like you were crazy)?</p>

<p>You can fit in if you can articulate persuasive logical arguments for your views.</p>

<p>vossron, to push you on this point, how many ronald-reagan-like republican students do you know at reed?</p>

<p>I actually don't know the number (those I know haven't made such views known to me, but I know very few Reed students--I'm a Reed parent).</p>

<p>In any case, the Reed community seems to be open to any views which can be logically articulated. My guess is that most schools are like this.</p>

<p>Beloit College may not be the most selective in terms of grade cut offs, but we look for the quality of students. I'm a student at Beloit and I must say our environment is more cooperative than competitive, but we are academically rigorous and we are among the, like, top 50 colleges that produce students who go on to get their advanced degrees. We also have Reed Like qualities...and we're in WI. It's like an hour or so plane ride from PA. I've been there to visit one of my college friends.</p>

<p>lollypop39, I totally support what you say. What I posted was actually pointing out an inconsistency in someone else's message. I do, however, agree with you about Beloit's qualities.</p>

<p>You must have not looked at your college counselor books lately because Beloit seems to be much less selective than Ohio Wesleyan. >></p>

<p>Peter, at the risk of another attack on me personally, I thought I'd share some more recent data. You seem to like hard facts. This data comes directly from the most recent Common Data Sets published by these three schools for the 2006-2007 admissions year, not the Princeton Review, which tends to be a year or so behind in its admissions data due to its publishing schedule. </p>

<p>Beloit College
Average GPA of admitted students: 3.5
Percentage of students in top 10% of high school class: 36%
Percentage in top 50% of high school class: 97%
Critical reading (25-75th percentile): 600-730
Math (25-75th percentile): 560-660
Combined math/reading 25-75 percentile: 1160-1380
Acceptance rate: 65% </p>

<p>Ohio Wesleyan University
Average GPA of admitted students: 3.4
Percentage in top 10% of high school class: 36%
Percentage in top 50% of high school class: 85%
Critical reading (25-75 percentile) 540-660
Math (25-75 percentile) 540-650
Combined: 1080-1320
Acceptance rate: 63%</p>

<p>Reed College
Average GPA of accepted students: 3.9
Percentage in top 10%: 67%
Percentage in top 50%: 98%
Critical reading (25-75 percentile): 660-750
Math (25-75 percentile): 620-710
Combined 25-75 percentile: 1280-1460
Admissions rate: 33%</p>

<p>As you can see, Beloit and Ohio Wesleyan are statistically very close on their admissions rates these days, but do have some notable differences in their academic profiles of admitted students. Reed is the most selective of the three schools, and, from the data, students at Reed are way ahead in terms of test scores, class rank, and GPA. </p>

<p>I am sure that you will issue another personal attack on me, but I thought it might be useful for you to have the actual data in hand before you make comparisons between various schools so you can avoid mistakes when speaking about their relative selectivity.</p>

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<p>Not necessary. This is a thread about Reed-like qualities. Your data proved my point that OWU is more selective than Beloit. Actually this year's data on admission rate (for OWU 52%) would be even more convincing. We should continue this in private message if you are so inclined. If not, have a great day!</p>

<p>Higher avg. GPA and test scores at Beloit = more selective, no? In any event, you're right that the thread was about Reed-like qualities, but you seem to have missed the point that Beloit's atmosphere was more like Reed's than OWU's. Selectivity was not the issue.</p>

<p>It is amusing that it is always a person a generation before me who is by virtue of the fact that he is not a student less likely to have the direct contacts with students that usually says something along the lines of a student "missing the point." I suppose you are correct: fleeting impressions always beat the direct experience. By the way, here is a recent article from the OWU bulletin about something else that Reed and OWU have in common: PhD</a> Productivity</p>

<p>If 500,000 people applied to Brooklyn Community College, would it instantly be considered the most selective college in the world? </p>

<p>If students at one college have better high school stats than another, the school is considered more selective... lest we consider one school better than another because it's smaller or more people apply.</p>

<p>OWU Economics professor Bob Gitter said "[...] how well we stack up against [...] some pretty prestigious company, such as Amherst, Bowdoin, Davidson, [Wesleyan] and Reed"</p>

<p>Hey, it's not every day that Reed is called "prestigious" together with that fine group. :)</p>

<p>Peter, I'm not knocking OWU. Nor was Carolyn. The original poster asked about eastern schools with Reed-like qualities, and gave Marlboro and Sarah Lawrence as examples. Students at all three schools have a reputation for being quirky, politically liberal iconoclasts. Carolyn evidently had that in mind when she suggested that Beloit (and several other schools) would provide a more Reed-like atmosphere than OWU. Had her only criterion been near-Reed-like admissions standards, her list would have looked very different. After all, there are a number of schools she didn't mention that are located in the NY/NE area and have admissions standards closer to Reed's than either Beloit or OWU.</p>

<p>I don't blame you for disagreeing with her, even though you misunderstood her point. That you're proud enough of your school to defend it speaks well of both you and your school. What doesn't speak well of you or your school is the insult you tossed her way, and then your stubborn persistence in defending a position she proved wrong.</p>