<p>^ I have heard of a number of people who get rejected by MIT but get into Harvard or Yale or Stanford, etc. So, I agree that MIT may actually be the hardest one to get into (or, at least, harder than a lot of ivies), despite the fact that MIT’s acceptance rate is about 11% vs. Harvard’s 7.3% or Yale’s 8.6%.</p>
<p>There are people who get into MIT and rejected from Harvard, Yale, etc. It’s impossible to compare.</p>
<p>Well, it is possible to compare, we just don’t have the data. ;)</p>
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<p>you still have a chance. different schools look for different people, so you can still match up with an ivy. reminds of a friend who wanted to go to mit. he got into all his other schools like standford, harvard, princeton, etc, except for mit.</p>
<p>i think MIT itself is a self-selecting pool. most people probably don’t apply “for fun,” or “to see,” if you know what i mean (harvard comes to mind).</p>
<p>Yeah, the applicant pool itself is pretty different. For example, the kid with 2400 SAT, 35 ACT, 800s on Spanish, Literature, and American History, Profiles in Courage Essay winner, National Poetry competition winner, and International President of Beta Club (this is a fictitious person) probably won’t apply to MIT…</p>
<p>I really don’t like the quota system for Australia/NZ. 1 or 2 (most likely 1) out of over 100 applicants? Are you serious…</p>
<p>My son didn’t get into MIT two years ago, but was accepted by Harvard, (Admittedly with a legacy boost.) He ended up at Carnegie Mellon and is very happy there. One of my grandfather’s was asked to leave Harvard and ended up at MIT.</p>
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There’s no quota for individual countries or regions, just a quota for international students overall.</p>
<p>there’s an overall quota for internationals, not a quote for individual countries.</p>
<p>you’ll get in where you fit.</p>
<p>I got rejected from MIT, but i realized that i’m not intense and “quirky” enough for the school. I wouldn’t necessarily be happy there.</p>
<p>I got into Stanford, though. In fact, they wrote me a letter on which the dean of admissions wrote “Come to Stanford!!” and signed by hand. I’m a laid back kind of guy, and although i really wanted to go to MIT, i realized that i fit in with the west coast lifestyle much better.</p>
<p>So its all for the best. :)</p>
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<p>That’s not completely true. In practice, MIT does try to get a certain amount of international diversity, so although they could fill the entire class (not just the international quota) with Indian applicants, for example, they do not do so. This ends up, in practice with a “soft” quota for regions. I say soft as they reserve the right to alter it given a particularly strong or weak class, but it does act as a quota. Regardless of how strong the applicants are, they are not going to take a dozen kiwis in a year. That is simply too disproportionate a percentage of the tightly limited international pool, and so a kid that might have gotten in one year, will not get in the next due to the bad luck of the pool.</p>
<p>The statistics for the just admitted class are not out yet, but last year’s international applicant pool admitted at around 3.9%. Certain regions are larger than others in any given year, but the law of small numbers applies. Last year my region finished at over 5%, but if you dropped a single admittance from our pool then we finished under the 3.9%. MIT takes roughly 110 international admits per year from roughly 50 countries. Complaining that your country only gets one or two students in is basically fruitless. That’s what they take.</p>
<p>That being said, I would be stunned if there were over 100 completed applications from Australia and NZ. I think that there were 85 from the UK last year. Note that I say completed applications. We get many more students fill in part one of the application then ever actually complete the application and apply.</p>
<p>I would not be that stunned. 8 people from my school applied (with completed applications). That’s just one school in one major city. There are 4 major cities in New Zealand, over 10 in Australia.</p>
<p>Just in my social circle I know there are at least 20.</p>
<p>wow,
i would have assumed less than 100 applicants from Aus and NZ
but i kinda trust Elvito’s judgement.</p>
<p>Also, on most occasions, MIT does admit a percentage of the number of applicants from a region, but i must say that sometimes this isnt true.
ie, percentage of applicants who got accepted from the Australasian region was approximately the same as the percentage from India or Singapore.</p>
<p>Don’t think I can say the same for countries such as Jamaica, or other countries within Europe.</p>
<p>So overall, its as fair as can be, but i think Mikalye was a bit rough on u Elvito</p>
<p>There’s a quota for virtually everything, and yes, MIT rejects still have a fair chance at Ivy League schools.</p>
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<p>I honestly did not mean to be. I still remain dubious at guessed figure of 100 applicants. The UK gets a lot of expatriate americans applying and I cannot recall a year with more than 100 applicants with them included. That being said, neither I nor Elvito have the figures for Australasia this year. I will get them, and then come back, and if I am wrong I will apologise profusely. But I doubt that that I am wrong. I am also dubious about claims that I am biased against the region. I am a kiwi and proud of it.</p>
<p>The admissions departments are different and there’s a bit of luck involved in getting into any top school. I got into MIT, Caltech, and Stanford and got rejected at every other Ivy (Harvard, Yale, Princeton) and even Brown, so you never know.</p>
<p>ngolsh is right, MIT (in terms of culture and academics especially) is very different from the Ivies. Their admissions officers are looking for different things; not just overall qualifications but for a good match with the school in question.</p>
<p>You definitely still have a chance with the Ivies.</p>