Rejected... not all hope is gone?

<p>I got rejected by Columbia when I applied Early Decision. I'm still very, very bitter about it. Can I try again through Regular Decision?</p>

<p>I don’t think so…</p>

<p>When ED students are deferred, then they’re put in the RD cycle. Rejected means “no” for this year.</p>

<p>* I have a 3.8 GPA but only a 2000 for my SAT overall.*</p>

<p>Ok…I can understand being disappointed …and rejection is disappointing. But, WHY, would you be “very, very, bitter,” when your chances were not good with a SAT 2000? </p>

<p>When I read your first post, I thought you must have had a 4.8 GPA and a 2380 SAT.</p>

<p>I dunno… I knew a few people who got in with a weaker score… so I kind of got my hopes up. I mean, its not only my scores but also my background (I live in Kazakhstan) : /</p>

<p>Ah thanks for the information… Looks like I won’t be going to Columbia this year.</p>

<p>@mom2collegekids I think that was a bit harsh, considering that he is feeling bitter because he was rejected, independent of the subject at matter being rejected isn’t as easy as turning ice into water, thus his bitter feelings.
A 3.8 gpa and 2000 for SAT are great scores, I am sure columbia didn’t reject because of these scores, if so there would be no reason you have to submit the rest of his application.</p>

<p>zaphira, no offense intended, but 3.8 and 2000 has about a 1% chance at Columbia. for real.</p>

<p>I’m sorry OP got his/her hopes up, but somebody should have let him/her know in advance that it was the LONGEST of long shots and to prepare emotionally for the 99% probably outcome.</p>

<p>@DunninLA I also agree, maybe he should have been better prepared for this to come…
@OscarSharman, I am not saying I’m a the kind of person that lives ‘dreaming’ but I should probably tell you that even though you were rejected now, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t another way around this if you seriously want to go to Columbia. You should consider spending 1 year to ‘pump up’ your application, maybe going to classes at a CC/taking your SATs/ACT again or even consider going to another four year institution and transferring after 1 or 2 years, although transfer rates can be very very low there is always hope, and if you keep yourself motivated I am sure you can shoot for the very best.
If you really don’t feel like considering all these options you can always do some research on other schools, with your scores you could get a pretty high scholarship even attending a school that isn’t ivy league but still has great academics.</p>

<p>mom2collegekids quote: Ok…I can understand being disappointed …and rejection is disappointing. But, WHY, would you be “very, very, bitter,” when your chances were not good with a SAT 2000? </p>

<p>zaphira, I don’t think mom2collegekids was “harsh”. As a parent of a college applicant also, I know that this is an extremely stressful time for all of you applicants, but sometimes it’s necessary to “tell it like it is”. A 2000 SAT score put Oskar in the lower edge of the applicant pool. There were kids today posting that they were deferred at Columbia with 3.8 GPA’s and 2300 SAT scores…</p>

<p>Oskar, I know that you’ll get into a really good school and be really happy. I’m sure there are some great alternate schools on your list…</p>

<p>Visit the Columbia subforum, and I’m sure you’ll see numerous applicants with much higher stats being rejected as well. You won’t be able to apply to Columbia again, but you will be able to apply to tons of other colleges that are just as wonderful :).</p>

<p>lets be real. I dont think it matters how you did one a saturday morning all hyped up on adderol. The SAT is a *****show. NONE of it will help you in life, at all. One Saturday morning does not sum up 4 years of high school. The SAT will be dropped in 10 years, already 10% of colleges have dropped it completly and another 25% have gone optional.</p>

<p>I’d have to disagree that the SAT, or a similar tool, will be gone-ever. Notice no top college has dropped it. They will always want a measure to compare students from a wide range of places.</p>

<p>*The SAT will be dropped in 10 years, already 10% of colleges have dropped it completly and another 25% have gone optional. *</p>

<p>???</p>

<p>Proof please.</p>

<p>25% have gone optional? 10% have dropped it completely? </p>

<p>Look thru the top 100 National U’s and tell us how many are test optional and how many have dropped it completely.</p>

<p>there may be a small number, but not what you’re claiming. And any better school that is offering “test optional” is probably doing so to protect itself by not having to include the low test scores in their ranges. </p>

<p>If you’re talking about lower tier schools, then, well, they just want more warm bodies. </p>

<p>I don’t believe that the SAT and ACT will be dropped in 10 years unless some better test comes along. GPA can be too misleading since so many schools have grade inflation. Haven’t you seen the postings from kids who are claiming 4.0+ GPA and ACT 24s???</p>

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Bowdoin and Bates beg to differ.</p>

<p>Bowdoin and Bates can attract creative, interesting applicants with unique accomplishments that make up for low test scores. That doesn’t mean that if you don’t have high scores, you should apply to those places. You probably also need to have a very rigorous high school curriculum to show that you can handle the work. </p>

<p>Standardized tests become more, not less, important when you have so many students using the Common App and applying to 10-15 colleges at a crack. The top schools are so bombarded with applicants that the SAT is an easy weeding tool. It’s not going away anytime soon, despite the wishful thinking of some.</p>

<p>I think we’re digressing.</p>

<p>Oskar: I’m sorry to hear that you were rejected from Columbia. My ED results aren’t available yet, so I have no idea what it feels like to be rejected from my dream school. It’s definitely okay to dream, but you have to consider the practicality of the dream and the chances of making it come true. I have no idea what your other stats are (ECs, essays, recs, awards, etc.) but if you didn’t think you had much of a chance to begin with, then it’s best not to get your hopes up. Columbia admits many students who are below 2000 on their SATs, but they are very rare cases indeed. Without a hook or a significant life experience, it’s VERY hard to get admitted with a 2000 SAT/ 3.8 GPA.</p>

<p>I know it’s harsh, but you shouldn’t have gotten your hopes up when you read of others with “similar” stats get in. Shake off the bitterness soon and realize that you still have options.</p>

<p>There is still time to apply to other colleges that have a January 1 deadline, which applies for many selective colleges. You will find many other colleges have later deadlines.</p>

<p>Try top state schools, like UNC, UVA, UCB, UW Madison, U Illinois, U Minnesota, U of Michigan, etc. I am sure you will be just as happy in these schools.</p>

<p>Thanks for the reassurances guys :slight_smile:
I’ve applied to the University of Michigan. My brother goes there so I think its a good choice for me. I also have Johns Hopkins on the list because my mom is an alumni of Johns Hopkins school of Public Health. Is that a boost to my application?</p>

<p>Re: John’s Hopkins boost – yes, JH is small enough that Legacy status does make a difference - not large, but yes, a boost. Let’s call it 0.1 on GPA and 100 pts. on SAT.</p>

<p>Great! JH would be pretty great as my sister lives close to Baltimore. :slight_smile:
Quick question though, do legacies apply to siblings or is it only present in generation-to-generation situations?</p>