Rejected Yale EA, any hope at other Ivies?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Stats:
Gender: Female
Race: Asian (adopted, though-- will that count against me since I'm Asian or be a plus/no effect in the interest of diversity since I was adopted?)
Location: Indiana
ACT: 34
SAT: 740 Verbal, 710 Math, 1450 combined (retook in Dec, went down 10 points in verbal, so I'll rely on my ACT)
SATII: 800 Writing, 760 Math 1C, 700 German with Listening (2 years of AP German; ouch), 670 Biology-E. I think I'll take Math IIC in January and rush scores. Should get at least a mid 700 there; I have a solid grade in Calculus.
GPA: 3.843? unweighted (it's a 3.8 something), 3.973 weighted. The school has a bizarre weighting scale that I don't understand.
Rank: 11 of 504; should move into top 10 at the semester
AP Classes: 10, not including English classes, which are more difficult than AP. Biology, Chemistry, 2 years of German, US History, World History, Physics, Environmental Science, Calculus, and Economics.
Intended Major: Biology or German. Now, that's where the problems are-- those are my two lowest SATII scores. I think I put German on my applications, though.</p>

<p>Awards:
AP Scholar with Distinction
National Merit Commended
Academic Super Bowl Science Team-- 2 years (must be invited; 3 students on the science team)
We the People District Champions
We the People 4th place at state
National Honor Society-- 2 years
National German Honor Society-- 3 years
Orchestra State Champion-- 2003
Orchestra State Runner-Up-- 2002, 2004
Violin Solo-- highest level; 5 years</p>

<p>Offices:
Webmaster of NHS
Co-President of Students for the Betterment of Society
Vice-President of German Club</p>

<p>Major ECs:
Gymnastics; 18 hours during school year, 26 during summer; 51 hours/year
Violin; 10 hours; 50 hours/year
We the People; 10 hours during competition season; 16 weeks
other clubs (German Club, NHS, etc)</p>

<p>Volunteer Work:
Tech team at church; 4 years
Created German tutoring program
Tutor math
Planning Committee for NHS State Conference</p>

<p>Interesting facts:
Internship at IUPUI-- went to international environmental conference, interviewed reps from over 50 companies, will write a paper on results
Crohn's disease</p>

<p>I'm a decent writer, so my essays should be good. I have no idea what my recs look like, but they should be fine.</p>

<p>Schools left: Miami of OH, Brown, Dartmouth, Wellesley
Miami of OH- safety?
Brown/Dartmouth- reachy matches?
Wellesley- match?</p>

<p>I got a very nice scholarship to Indiana-Bloomington and was rejected Yale EA.</p>

<p>I am indicating that Brown is and has been my #1 school on my application. I would have applied there early, but my parents did not want me to do Early Decision. Should I mention that somewhere, and do I have a decent shot?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>No, truthfully, you don't have much hope for ivies. Certainly don't get your hopes up. You've a better than average student, but to enter ivies you have to be better than better than average. Like you SAT scores, for example, or anything else, don't put you over the top. I would say brown and dartmouth are definite reaches, not even "matchy". Good luck though. Miami of Ohio, you should get in there.</p>

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<p>Aussiek, I do We the People too! I'm from New York though so we haven't even had regionals yet, let alone states. I love We the People. It's so much fun and I'm really hoping that we make it to nationals this year (our school usually does). Glad to see a fellow WTPer on here!!
Back to your original topic, I think that Brown and Dartmouth are reaches but keep in mind that they are ivies and ivies are reaches for everyone. Good luck!</p>

<p>EDIT: BTW, have you looked into Washington University in St. Louis? It's a pretty good school and you have a solid chance there.</p>

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<p>I don't like how SOMEONE said you have no chance for the Ivies. It's not as if they've seen your essay and recs. However, if your recs are simply "fine," that isn't a GOOD thing. Same with your essay. Make it extraordinary.
My friend had a 3.62 GPA. How did she get into Dartmouth with that an a 1320 SAT? An amazing essay, recs, and ECs.
Now, I'd see why Yale said no. Brown will most likely say no, though I can't be CERTAIN. If you want a chance with some Ivies, be realistic. Try UPenn or Cornell, especially Cornell - they take in 31%.
Then again, why do you want to go to an Ivy League school? Is it simply because you want to feel good about saying you went? Sure, you should be proud of where you go to college, but so many fantastic schools aren't Ivies. It's just a name. So I hope you don't solely care about the Ivy name. Choose the place you think is right for you.
G'luck.</p>

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<p>Yale accepts about 8-9 % of its applicants. Of those, about 25 percent are reserved for sports athletes, kids of great alumni/big donors/big names, and Westinghouse winners (and the like). the average applicant has about a 6 percent chance now for the other spots. Get down to earth and realize aussiek517 has a very little being accepted in that 6 percent over kids with 1600s and more.</p>

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<p>I was under the impression that my ACT score was considerably above average (above the 75th percentile) at all three schools. I know my SAT score is unimpressive-- but even that is above Brown's average, unless I'm looking at old stats. I figured my stats would keep me in the running, and it would come down to the essays, recs, and ECs.</p>

<p>jenz-- I've looked at Washington in SL, but I'd rather attend Miami of OH or IU. We the People was AWESOME! Too bad we had a terrible first round at state; we've never placed that low. Two or three years ago, we got 4th place at nationals, but lately, schools around the state have changed to an application process. It's hard to compete with that when the talent at my school is spread around 4 classes.</p>

<p>twinkies (like the name, by the way)-- I have never seen my recs, so I can't say that they're excellent, horrible, or somewhere in between. I'm fairly sure that they are on the good to great side, but there's no way of knowing that! My essays have been written since September; my English teacher said they were some of the best she's ever seen, but that's so subjective.</p>

<p>I picked Brown, Dartmouth, and Wellesley because of their science and language programs and their sizes, among plenty of other reasons, but those were the biggest factors when I was selecting my top 10 list. I love Brown's no distribution requirement since I think that encourages students to take classes that they wouldn't take otherwise. One of my friends attends Wellesley and she loves it, plus it's awesome in languages. Dartmouth is very strong at both languages and science as well, plus I like the campus and the small town feel. I'm not interested in Cornell; that's one that I cut out early in my search. I was somewhat interested in Penn, but the location was not ideal, and ultimately there were colleges that I liked better.</p>

<p>ranger-- um, I was rejected from Yale, so why bother arguing about it?</p>

<p>Which reminds me, I forgot to ask about Colgate. That's what I get for copying and pasting! I'm also interested to hear your opinions on Wellesley; that's my #2 now.</p>

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<p>You picked good reasons for your schools - clearly you aren't someone who simply wants to boast about attending an Ivy.</p>

<p>Sorry, I missed Wellesley on your list. You seem like you'll have a really good chance there.</p>

<p>G'luck!</p>

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<p>bump......</p>

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<p>Might want to look at some liberal arts schools like Holy Cross or Colgate. At a school like Holy Cross might get better financial aid. Also HC has more school pride than Wellesley.</p>