<p>Buddha,
If you live close by, perhaps you could ask for an interview with s.o. from the dept., seek feedback (if they remember the audition) or a private coaching session (even if they don't remember the audition). I know this is easy for ME to say, I haven't just been handed the bad news. But maybe you could think about it in a few days. Best of luck to you. I wish this was not such a heart-wrenching process.</p>
<p>Buddha (and EVERYONE else who is worried about the outcome of this season)-- </p>
<p>Not getting into these schools has NOTHING to do with your talent, seriously. I know all these people are saying it and it probably sounds like it doesn't mean anything, but it means something when I say it. This was my THIRD YEAR auditioning for MT programs and I FINALLY got one acceptance. I know exactly how you're feeling right now, and I know how much it hurts to think about all the kids who are getting in -- trust me. </p>
<p>Not getting into schools has NOTHING to do with the real world!! I wasn't planning on posting this publicly at all, but I feel like it might help some kids to see it. This year, after receiving two of three BFA rejections, I had large summerstock auditions where tons of actors attend and you get scored and notified if the companies want to see you again. I felt like I had no chance of getting a single callback or a good mark -- but from all the Equity theatres there I got 4's and mostly 5's (on a scale of 1-5), and I got a bunch of callbacks and even an offer on the spot. I was shocked, but it REALLY solidified in my mind that BFAs are looking for very specific types during any given year, and it's possible that this year just wasn't for you. </p>
<p>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE understand that this isn't it!! It's fine to feel crappy for a while, you will. Buy yourself a jar of Nutella and some graham crackers and watch a good movie (it REALLY helps!!). But think of it this way -- when you DO get a BFA/BA/BM acceptance next year or whenever, you will have a leg up!! You KNOW how to bounce back from a series of quick rejections and you will know how to use the anger and the frustration to fuel your passion more. That's what I've done. And trust me, there are SO many times when I felt like it would never happen, and every single second was worth it knowing now that someone (aka the admissions panel) thinks I can succeed and thinks they can take what I already have and make it better, and that now is the right time to do that.</p>
<p>Don't give up. If you love it enough and can't imagine what else you would possibly do, you'll find a way to make it happen. There will be a lot of heartache and pulled muslces and frustrating voice lessons along the way, but there will also eventually be a lot of applause and it will all be worth it.</p>
<p>well, its a no go for CMU. I found out today.</p>
<p>Sporti,
You are awesome and an inspiration to all! Congrats on the success with summerstock auditions. You deserve it!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I FORGOT TO SAY...</p>
<p>When I was going through all the pain of the college rejections, I felt like all I wanted was someone who had been through it before to talk to. Well, I've been through it twice. Parents, kids, whatever -- feel free to PM me and I'll give you my AIM screenname or something.</p>
<p>Things WILL get better.</p>
<p>Thanks... that helps... I know I'll never give up, because I can't see myself ever doing anything other than musical theatre. I just... don't know where to go from here. It's hard :(</p>
<p>Something they Needed for the Class of 2011 :)</p>
<p>NYU/Tisch CAP21
Shenandoah Conservatory
Westminster Choir Collge
Oklahoma City University</p>
<p>Not Quite What they Needed in the Class of 2011 anymore ;)</p>
<p>Umich
CMU
CCM
Elon</p>
<p>We did have 2 more on the list that were never auditioned at after other accepts. </p>
<p>Don't doubt yourself- you create beauty in your art that no one else can because no one else is you! Keep the faith!
-MikksMom</p>
<p>Buddha and BroadwayJenn, </p>
<pre><code> You have been through an extremely stressful, expensive & draining process. You have every right to be completely bummed, but please don't despair. Learn from this experience and use it. Definately call the schools and speak to the directors about your "scores". Ask what they think you should work on for next years auditions. Buddha, definately apply and audition at more schools, like 8-12! You can do unified's auditions to reduce your travel. Work on gen ed classes that can be transfered. English comp., psych, and History are some examples. Get a good song coach, someone who can help you with your song choices and acting the songs. Coach C has helped many and I recommend her. She can even work with you over a web cam! She's honest and will tell you if your songs are a good "fit" or not. She can also recommend a private acting coach to help you select good monologues.
If you choose to get back in the game, you've already learned a lot about the process and can be prepared to give it your best shot next season.
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<p>I wish you peace.</p>
<p>Kate</p>
<p>I've hesitated to update this list full well knowing what the outcomes would probably be. Four days before Chicago Unifieds where my daughter had five auditions, she got very sick with a bad sinus infection. She was in production for her school's winter play, so vocal rest was not an option until after Saturday night's last performance. But she started her unified auditions first thing Monday morning, and it just didn't look good. She gave it her best, but it obviously wasn't impressive - she really tried not to show any signs of being sick (didn't want to appear needy or sickly), but at that point, her cough was unmistakable and unpreventable.</p>
<p>Reading this forum prepared me for strategically scheduling a couple of auditions last fall so as to not put all her eggs in one basket. Of those auditions, she has acceptances to SUNY-Geneseo and Muhlenberg. Muhlenberg has offered three great scholarships, and Geneseo is just downright cheap to begin with.</p>
<p>Over the next week or two, we will discuss strategies for next year. Although last fall she was leaning more toward a B.A. degree where she could possibly double major, as the year has progressed, she became more enamored with BFA programs. For now, it appears as if the decision boils down to two excellent programs that aren't quite how she sees her fit right now. When we originally visited both schools, she was pleased with their programs. The roadblocks at this point are Muhlenberg: it is too much like her high school in some very superficial ways - same size, basically same mascot, same logo for the "M", same school colors. She felt like she would be reminded too much of high school there, even though she liked the students and staff she met. I can't change how she feels about it, but I suspect that if she were to choose it, those similarities would quickly vanish - something that's hard for her to see at this moment. Geneseo - she's not too sure about its rural location, although I'm not the only one who has told her she won't have time to enjoy a big city if she is doing musical theatre. We are considering second trips to both, although I don't know when as I will be out of the country for a week in April, and by the time I get back, she will be in heavy rehearsals for their musical.</p>
<p>I really appreciate Sporti's reflection on her experience and I wish my daughter would read this board. Last week before she had her audition for Spring Awakening replacements, she had a coaching session with a CCM graduate who has had some success on Broadway and regional theatre. After meeting her and working with her for a bit, he asked what her plans were for college. When I gave him a list of her rejections, he was genuinely surprised and then asked why she hadn't applied to any conservatories - I told him that was her choice and he had my permission to try to change her mind :) He was truly surprised that she had no BFA acceptances until I explained her illness during Unifieds. Anyway, it was nice to be affirmed and encouraged by someone who has gained recognition in the field. As an aside to add to stories about other things that MT majors do... this coach, while being a successful performer, has added a doctor of divinity degree to his credentials! Talk about diverse.</p>
<p>Anyway, that's our update, and if anyone has any questions or comments regarding our experience (looking back, the only thing we could have changed was scheduling so many auditions for Unifieds, but this was the peak of my daughter's show choir competition season, and she just couldn't miss anything - this was a non-negotiable issue with her and her director), please feel free to PM me.</p>
<p>hello all, i just got my final rejections today from mt and theatre schools:</p>
<p>rejections:
boco
ccm
cmu
nyu
ucla
usc
bu
fordham</p>
<p>in the end i didn't get into any mt schools so i'm going to a small liberal arts college nearby, santa clara university. </p>
<p>im still contemplating jumping back into this ring, auditioning again next year, or just transferring to a larger university after two years, getting a BA in theatre. everything will fall into place.</p>
<p>And i want to thank all the people who have left stories and advice for those navigating this confusing college admissions mess.</p>
<p>yeah. i already have a bunch of gen eds. two french classes, two english classes, and two history classes, and all their credits. it's like....seventeen credits. so i'll basically be entering into college as a sophmore.</p>
<p>i did have a coach, a very very good coach. he directs all the musicals at our school. i don't really have anyone to blame but myself.</p>
<p>i think i might go down to georgia and go to SCAD for graphic design and preforming arts, and their equestrian team. once that gets to be too far away/too expensive, maybe i'll think about coming back to new york.</p>
<p>Just an observation...even though people say that if you don't hear from Tisch before April 1, you still have a chance of getting in when the April 1 letters arrive. I'm not so sure about that. It seems that most people got rejection letters from Tisch yesterday (including my D). I haven't noticed any acceptances posted since yesterday.</p>
<p>One of my D's friends was accepted to NYU Tisch, but does not know what studio or program she's in? Is Cap 21 the MT studio? Soozie, can you help me out here?</p>
<p>Sarahsmom42, yes CAP21 is THE music theater studio, and the only music theatre studio within Tisch. There also is a music theater major through Steinhardt, but that's a different division. If your D's friend said she would ONLY accept CAP21 and she got an acceptance, that means she is in CAP21. If she auditioned with CAP21 as her first choice, but said she would accept another studio if she did not get into CAP, then I gather she may still be waiting for her studio assignment. (Of course, she might also be assigned to CAP!)</p>
<p>Sarahsmom, yes, CAP21 is Tisch's MT studio. Studio assignments usually come out about a week after the acceptance package. If your D's friend specified ONLY CAP21, then if she's been accepted, she's in! If not, then she'll have to wait for the studio letter, or she could call the Drama office. They'll tell her.</p>
<p>Buddha, </p>
<p>I have the utmost respect for your willingness to take responsibility for your actions, it shows great maturity. However, I wondered what process you used to evaluate the qualifications of your voice coach. How many other students had the coach helped get into MT programs? If so, what programs? These are questions you need to ask any voice coach. A good voice coach has knowledge of hundreds of songs that are not over used, and that fit your particular voice. He/she can help you find what's unique about your voice and how to capitalize on that quality by choosing the right song. A good voice coach for this process should know the different schools, their programs and even know some of the directors of the programs themselves. He or she would know all about the "Do not use" lists and how many schools you should apply to. He or she could also tell you if you are realistic or not in you quest. I'm not saying that you did'nt have a good coach, I just think that it's easy to confuse a great director or teacher who who love for someone who knows this process and has had success getting people into college MT programs.
This is not an easy endeavor and not one for the faint at heart. Sporti is very wise and I admire her for her determination. I have no doubt that she will work in MT because she has learned from her experiences. She's not going to let anyone push her down and that's what it takes to make it in this business. Good luck in all you do!</p>
<p>Sporti --</p>
<p>You really said it all, and this board is very lucky to have you with your wisdom and experience at this time. It is tremendously sweet of you to offer such support to others, and congratulations again. I have no doubt that you will be a great success!</p>
<p>don't worry, he's well qualified. he did pick songs that were right for my voice and character. pretty much had me, spot on. he coaches a lot of kids and gives private lessons but those kids don't really go into musical theatre...in fact, in my county/area, people usually go into other fields. i was the only musical theatre major wanna be at my school.</p>
<p>As wonderful as he might be, it might make sense to get "a second opinion," so to speak. In other words, to have someone who has NOT worked with you before give an assessment of your progress/monologues/songs, etc. Pls know that I am not suggesting your current coach doesn't know his or her stuff, as I am sure he/she does. Just a thought.</p>
<p>My son was rejected at Fredonia.</p>