Religion in America

<p>^I think you just might be confused in general.</p>

<p>Well, we aren’t entirely agreeing with everything Israel is doing. We’ve threatened to cut off support.</p>

<p>Give credit to the Israeli Military though, they make hellacious fighters. Never really lost anything.</p>

<p>^yeah, I know.</p>

<p>^^no, I’m not.</p>

<p>The story of the Dome of the Rock and where it was built is long and complicated. In a nutshell it was built on top of the ruins of ancient Hebrew temples that have major significance to Jews. Thus the proximity of the Wailing (Western) Wall and the Dome of The Rock. They are both significant to each religion, although the Dome of the Rock is not the most sacred Islmamic mosque, whereas the Temple Mount (the ruins) is very sacred to Jews. It is the sight of Solomon’s first temple and the 2nd temple built in its place.</p>

<p>“The Dome of the Rock is located at the visual center of a platform known as the Temple Mount, which Muslims refer to as the “Noble Sanctuary”. It was constructed over the site of the Second Jewish Temple which was destroyed during the Roman Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE.”</p>

<p>The more you get historical facts, the more you will see how complicated the conflict is.</p>

<p>^Jerusalem = most important city to Jews
Jerusalem = 3rd most important city to Muslims (site of Muhammad’s ascendance to heaven)</p>

<p>^^Yeah, I heard about all that.</p>

<p>I’m not gonna go back and check, but who called a Synagogue a Jew Church? That was slightly annoying to me.</p>

<p>I don’t think anybody did.</p>

<p>^^R0kAng3l did in post 8.</p>

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<p>Because it is… If you read in the other posts too, we’ve been talking about it.</p>

<p>It’s a Jewish temple for them to pray, I know what it is. But it’s supposedly very spiritual and it’s in the same location as the Dome of Rock which is Muslim and so they’re fighting over that land.</p>

<p>I think its kind of hard to push for liberty and freedom when followers of a certain religion are being quadruple checked at Airports and looked down upon. I know people will come up with excuses that its a security threat…if so, does that warrant what the feds did to all the Japanese immigrants during and after WWII? Weren’t they a bigger “security threat” as back then?</p>

<p>I think freedom to practice religion exists in America…if you’re willing to resist the fear and take risks. I don’t have to name a religion, you know it. Its on the news all the time, especially when they emphasize the word over and over and over. I love this country so much, almost as much as I love mine! Yet I don’t understand why there is a lot of hate going around…even on the Westcoast!</p>

<p>Maybe Im just too tired from these finals…time for bed!!</p>

<p>just my 2 cents</p>

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<p>Um, no. A synagogue isn’t a Jewish church, it’s a synagogue. You could also call it a Jewish house of worship, a temple (although rabbis dispute whether or not this phrasing is appropriate), or a shul. But a synagogue is not a church. “Church” isn’t some default synonym for “house of worship,” it specifically evokes certain beliefs and practices. I wouldn’t call a church a Christian’s synagogue, so why would I call a synagogue a Jewish church?</p>

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<p>Again, hat’s not the fault of the religion though. It’s just that certain people in power are bigots.</p>

<p>This is turning into politics, not religion (eventhough they might infuse at times).
its a complicated issue… violence instigated by the Israeli side, I must admit. What would you do if you’ve lived in this country for 100+ years and then a new country without land wants to takeover yours?</p>

<p>I love how pro-israel debaters bring up how Israel is for the Israelis and how its the promised land. We need to remember that NOT ALL JEWS SUPPORT ISRAEL. Its a ZIONIST state, not a JEWISH state. ALL muslims support palestine. They dont want a complete takeover if its going to cost more lives…nobody minds sharing as long as there isnt widespread injustice.</p>

<p>^thats exactly what happened in Madinah. The prophet muhammad (peace be upon him) emigrated there from Makkah after suffering under the hands of the pagans. He arrived greeted by a mix of jewish and christian settlers. All the 3 societies comingled…many converted to Islam (after seeing its true light…not the Al-Qaeda version…blasted morons got themselves a well-deserved express ticket to hell).</p>

<p>If it was the promised land, why were they roaming for hundreds of years…even after moses (peace be upon him) died, they still had no land that they were trying to find suitable for them (because they’ve been very disobedient, from the muslim account…call me biased, but these are my true beliefs, and I firmly believe this is true)?</p>

<p>eh, this is too tiring. Why can’t we just talk about something else? It will never end… the only time it will end is when Israel comes outta the shadows and starts talking properly and not in morse code to (almost) everybody… or in all out war/World War 3… pick one!</p>

<p>1.) It’s called Palestine not Israel. Mistake.
2.) Palestine belongs to the Palestinian people–not to the Israelis.</p>

<p>@thrill3rnit3: ofcourse!! there is no religion in the world (to my extent of knowledge) that commands its followers to be crazy or violent… but there needs to be a realization that freedom to practice in this country is no completely open for everybody (by law it is, but not in reality…that is the problem), people need to stop living in a utopia. </p>

<p>case: My friend’s mom, a computer science doc student at a top 5 a few years back was assaulted when she was in nyc attending a big convention of some sort. She was slapped, banged against a wall, and had her hijab ripped off her head… (terrorism can be domestic too, as you see^ yet no one emphasizes on that cause its not action-packed like carbombings and gunbattles…sad) shes a 3rd generation practicing Muslim American… she probably was more “American” per se than her attackers!</p>

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<p>I would argue that it isn’t so much an issue of national v. international, but rather one of media coverage and how Americans conceptualize the relationship between religion and acts of terror. Whereas fundamentalist Christian terrorists are often dismissed as “not true Christians” and “the exception,” fundamentalist Islamic terrorists are more often portrayed (and wrongly, I believe, portrayed) as truly representative of Islam as a whole. Of course, terrorists belong to many different religions, and their motivations are numbered: political, religious, economic, and social.</p>

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<p>Everyone knows that. The government has a reason for doing such activities. I don’t want this to turn to a completely different debate, so I’ll just stop there.</p>

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I couldn’t think of a name at that exact moment, which is why I said a church. But I did say later that I know it’s a temple for worship.</p>