Request from Selections Division

<p>Today, our son received an email from a Deputy Chief, Selections Committee (don’t know if that is a clerk or someone of importance - maybe someone else knows). Anyway, it said that she noted that his sitting height may have been recorded incorrectly on his medical exam and, as such, they would like him to be remeasured and fax in his measurement. He measures at 36" so should be good for pilot qualified per the chart.</p>

<p>We just know he is medically qualified. However, we did get a copy of his eye exam and all is well there for pilot qualified. He 5’11’ height is fine too. Appears everything on the pilot qualified chart is good.</p>

<p>Question - I thought from earlier posts that they would not be looking at this until the junior year at the AFA. Obviously, they are considering it now. Can anyone shed light on what is happening in this part of the process?</p>

<p>They will medically place your son in one of three categories.</p>

<p>PQ all medical requirements for pilot training have been met.</p>

<p>NQ navigator qualified</p>

<p>and CQ Commission Qualified</p>

<p>If his sitting height was in correct this could affect that category. For admission PQ will always get the first nod.</p>

<p>Evidence that the first selection board has met/is meeting this week?</p>

<p>So that means the AFA get much more from DODMERB than the "qualified" that the candidate gets. I wasn't sure on that based on the posts I had read.</p>

<p>DoDMERB will only give them a Qual/DQ. If they get a DQ remedial action may be requested. A waiver is automatically considered for USNA/USMA but timing differs (when they start considering waivers). USAFA issues all waiver's themselves. The height may have been flagged in his medical record resulting in the question you raised. With USAFA the sooner you deal with waivers the better. I know you said his sitting height was acceptable, they may just need to remeasure him.</p>

<p>There are two DoDMERB reps (one currently working there and one recently retired) at the Service Academy Forums. You can google it for the link. They can give you much more precise information about this.</p>

<p>If DoDMERB only gives them Q/DQ then how does the AFA determine PQ, NQ, and CQ as mentioned in the previous report?</p>

<p>We have already had him measured by a doctor in our neighborhood and have faxed back the correct measurement. However, his application status always showed
"Qualified" and still does. AFA have to be looking at more data than just Qualified from DoDMERB or they would not have caught that there was probably a error made in recording his sitting height.</p>

<p>USAFA determines PQ/NQ during the 2nd and 3rd year.</p>

<p>Like Raimius said the "Real" PQ, NQ, CQ status will be determined in the second or third year. Potter recently got approved for the eye surgery, and that may change her status depending on outcome.</p>

<p>For the 2011's and beyond the ability to see everything on the candidate webpage is slightly different. you can see the medical status leading to the confusion. If you have a question about it don't hesitate to call DoDMERB, or the USAFA counselors. They are there to help. If it is DoDMERB related the advice of RetNavyHM and the other DoDMERB guy at service academy has always been very sound.</p>

<p>DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THIS BECAUSE I AM NOT SURE...</p>

<p>I talked to my ALO about PQ and NQ. He said that the AFA or DODMERB determines preliminary PQ or NQ just by the tests that are conducted. This means they only use your eye and hearing scores, as well as height and weight. They may also use medical history, but probably not. This is only preliminary, since you will be evaluated later at the Air Force Academy. Being PQ or NQ helps your application, I think, but once again, I'm not positive.</p>

<p>I suspected what packermatt7 said was true. No problem for us as from what we know our son should fall into PQ for admission purposes.</p>

<p>Besides the request for the remeasurement of our son's height, we got the following in part of an email from our admissions officer:</p>

<p>"We look at folders every week and our cutoffs (scores) and needs (pilot, navigator, commissioned officer qualified) change on a weekly basis. "</p>

<p>Based on the above, I knew AFA had to at least have details of the hearing, eye exam, and height and sitting height measurements that are on that PQ, NQ, CQ chart.</p>

<p>Hi!</p>

<p>This is NOT a clerk. It's a real person and they have some weight up at RR.</p>

<p>When a message like this comes down, a lot of folks get nervous, worry, and so forth. DON'T. Simply do what they ask. They're just trying to clarify something that "they" feel is important.</p>

<p>If its NOT a DODMERB request, then it's simply to clear up something in the applicants folder. DODMERB is a different story and there's a VERY senior member of DODMERB answering questions on another site. PM me at: <a href="mailto:flieger83@cox.net">flieger83@cox.net</a> if you don't know the site.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Steve</p>

<p>Stephen E. Wood, Lt Col, USAFR
Deputy Liaison Officer Director for Arizona</p>

<p>Thanks for your reply Steve. Yes - we knew it was not from DoDMERB. They made it very clear who it was from and that they just suspected it was a recording error. We just simply got a nurse to measure him according to the instructions the Deputy Chief, Selections Committee sent and faxed it back immediately per the instructions.</p>

<p>Actually - we looked at it positive as, hey, they have his file and are looking at it! Yeah!</p>

<p>Well besides the "recording error" on our son's sitting height measurement I just paid for a new depth perception test that our son passed. He got every item they measured correct. After a visual exam and a medical exam with errors from the doctors we were sent, I was not about to use one of their contracted doctors again.</p>

<p>DodMerb told us for the eye doctor today to fax up the passing depth perception test we had done today. Hopefully, he will be back before the Board on Monday.</p>

<p>Please let Cmdr Mullen from DoDMERB know about the test. The DP test and Eye exam in general is one they have great difficulty with. Many providers fail to perform the test correctly and it has to be reaccomplished later. We made sure to have Potters done at Nellis before her DoDMERB anticipating those kinds of problems.</p>

<p>Well I have been at hospital with sick Dad so unable to post, but our son got his LOA in the mail on Sat., Oct. 18. LOA was dated Oct. 14 before our repeat depth perception test. So.. I guess they really did not need that new depth perception test but now have the passed test. I guess all they really wanted was his correct sitting height that they would not have gotten for his file in time for the first week's LOAs. And since the LOA was dated Oct. 14, they did in fact meet the week of Columbus Day holiday - they met on Tuesday instead of Monday as LOA was dated Tuesday.</p>

<p>Our son was totally unprepared for the LOA which arrived Sat. as we thought his file would not go before the committee again until Monday when they had the new passed depth perception test. I was at the hospital when he called, and I could hardly understand his "I got an LOA!!!". Tonight the Texas A&M sticker was removed from his truck and replaced with an USAFA sticker so I guess he has made up his mind!</p>

<p>Aggie Mom - we will be thinking of Aggie Dad and hope all is well soon.</p>

<p>Congrats to Aggie son! And, thank goodness for USAFA! At least it got that Aggie sticker off his truck. That alone was worth the LOA!!!! :) :)</p>

<p>Congradulations and hope Dad gets better soon.</p>

<p>Thanks for the nice words about my dad. May not have made that clear that it was not my husband but my dad in the hospital.</p>

<p>Our high school got two AFA LOAs Saturday - my son's and girl from his class. Pretty good for our high school!</p>

<p>aggie83 - Then the best to aggie Grand Dad. We do hope all is well.</p>

<p>And, since I live in Texas, I had to rib about the aggie sticker. There are aggie and UT stickers on cars everywhere here. I mean everywhere!!!!! </p>

<p>That is very cool that your son's high school produced two exceptionally fine young students then, isn't it? LOL Many congrats! :)</p>

<p>I will refrain from more aggie bashing lest my neighbors find out and TP the house or something. Sigh........</p>