hmmph. yeah I think you’re right here @menloparkmom. Oh well, very disappointing experience
you’ll live.
deep breathes…
And pretty much all colleges expect the student to communicate any changes to the schedule after the application is submitted.
So @skieurope, does that mean it’s all over for me and I can’t ever reapply anywhere, especially Dart, for UG admissions? Just because my GC made a class and I dropped it, and then didn’t actually drop it?
There is obviously something more going on. Dartmouth admissions would most likely have talked to your HS counselor for clarification of your transcript issue… Move on, Dartmouth isn’t taking you back.
@CottonTales Darn. Yeah well I guess that’s enough for me – not reapplying to dart
you can reapply as a freshman LOTS of places, as long as you do not enroll in a college in the meantime.
I’m not saying that. I was responding to your comment:
and pointed out what I saw that you did wrong.
You can apply anywhere you want, including Dartmouth, for freshman admissions, so long as you are not enrolled in another college in the interim. However, I would not hold out hope for Dartmouth. I think there is more to this story, but it does not appear that your odds are high for Dartmouth admissions, so look around for other colleges.
Yesterday in another thread you posted that you are currently applying ED to Dartmouth. What does that mean?
I have to reapply to Dartmouth, might as well do it ED @TomSrOfBoston
I think people are being too harsh here. If I submitted a drop request and the class disappeared from my PowerSchool screen, I would assume that the administration had dropped me from the class. As for checking the transcript, I don’t know how many kids even SEE their final transcript. It is sent directly to the college. I don’t recall my kid ever seeing his final transcript.
The screw up here appears to be totally on the part of the administration of the HS. (Perhaps some kind of dual enrollment situation contributed to it…) Anyway, when the GC’c office discovered that THEY had screwed up–and he had the proof of the drop request–it was THEIR job to notify D of the error on the transcript and send a corrected one.
On the other hand, I find it strange that D would have not responded to an appeal if the school came through with this information. That makes me wonder if there was some other factor involved. I do not believe that D would rescind a student just for dropping a class.
@notatdart, I do not agree with those who tell you not to reapply. Clearly, they found you sufficiently appealing to accept you in the first pace. If the facts are as you have stated them here, and if you submit an ED application that includes a clear and convincing explanation of what happened, bolstered by a letter from the GC, I would think you have a chance of acceptance.
Letting some strangers on the internet tell you to give up is foolish. None of us is on the admissions committee.
Of course, you should also prepare applications for other schools, and not pin all your hopes on D.
@Consolation The school didn’t correspond with Dartmouth. Apparently the GC just didn’t send anything, or at least evidence that I tried to drop the class, to Dartmouth until August 31st, at about which I was just plainly rescinded. I agree with you that I don’t think I did something extremely wrong, but nonetheless, I need some sort of advice, since I have no clue what I’m doing. I have no clue if they want me or not, if I was an accidental acceptance or their prized student, and I have no clue what I did wrong in their eyes. Oh well, and thanks for the help.
I just can’t wrap my head around this situation.
Dartmouth is so disorganized that they allowed you to complete your registration, pay your tuition for the semester, and get as far as heading to Hanover for pre-orientation? No one ever communicated with you or your high school over the transcript issue, you were just suddenly rescinded en route? Did you show up and speak with someone in person?
A teacher submitted a failing grade for a course you stopped attending, didn’t complete work for, never took a final for? The teacher never contacted you, your GC, or the administration when you stopped attending class? You never received a progress report or a report card? Nothing is triggered at your school when a student fails to show up for a class for months? As a student with a Ivy League acceptance in hand no one thought it unusual that you were MIA? What kind of teacher, GC, and school system are we talking about here?
Once you were rescinded your GC was fine with it? Thought you deserved it because you didn’t make an effort to drop the class? Seriously?
Where were your parents during all of this? As a parent I would not be leaving my kid to seek advice on a forum. I would have been in Hanover. I would have been at the high school. I would have been calling every member of the school board if I did not receive appropriate intervention from the GC and administration. I would have had answers and accountability from everyone involved, including you.
It just doesn’t make sense.
That being said, I think you should be taking a “gap year” and reapplying aggressively as a freshman. I can’t imagine you would want anything further to do with Dartmouth if they truly treated you in the manner you have indicated. Did you have other acceptances? Have you attempted to contact any of those schools to find out if January admission is possible?
I agree strongly with planner03’s questions about this.
The whole thing is so very strange that it is actually hard to believe, I’m sorry to say.
@Consolation: I think that’s the reaction many of us have had. I guess I irritated OP with my questions, but the story just does not add up. I spend many of my days reading tales of woe from prisoners who were wrongfully convicted. If the stories do not add up, I am not sympathetic. OP may have been mistreated somewhere along the way, but I’m not ready to buy that yet.
There was a thread 2 years ago where a student’s acceptance was suspended. Dartmouth required him to do a gap year.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/dartmouth-college/1669060-acceptance-suspended-p1.html
As you can see this poster was contacted in July. I find it hard to believe that the school did this in late August/Early September after giving you a room assignment and allowing you to attend a DOC trip. For them to rescind at this late stage, it was something more that failing a class (that probably wan’t required since it did not affect your ability to graduate in the spring).
I am going to come straight out and say it; there is something about your story that absolutely does not make sense and leaves a lot of questions.
What system does your high school operate on; semester, trimester, cycle.
Even if your school operates on a trimester system from March - June, if you were enrolled in a class in mid-March, which you dropped, was it replaced with another class.
Are you trying to say that your school does not give out report cards/progress reports during the trimester. At some time before June you would have seen that you were failing this class?
On the last day of school, you did not receive your report card and notice the failing grade?
Are you saying that your school has no mechanism for you/your parents to check grades (jupiter grades, schedula, engrade, etc), missing assignments, etc?
Testing for understanding; you are on the register in a class, which you never attended and you are saying that the teacher in the class never contacted you or your parents during the term about your non attendance. Your guidance counselor or administrator never spoke to you about cutting class (which is what you did if you were in school, and not attending the class).
if you dropped the class, what was replaced on your program?
Are you saying that you were admitted in April, accepted your spot by the May 1 deadline, let your school know that this is where you are attending and no one said “hey notadart, your not attending this widget class may come back and bite you.”
Your school had to go through some sort of certification process. Apparently this must have been some sort of elective class because if it was a core required for graduation, your failing it would have affected your ability to graduate with your class in the spring, requiring you to attend summer school.
Most final transcripts are mailed out to colleges on the last day of school (at my high school you have to submit the form stating your final school in order to pick up your cap and gown). If you were admitted off of the wait list over the summer, I could understand your transcript being sent out late.
If you just applied the previous year, was admitted and rescinded, Dartmouth will pull out your old application and review it. They will also have the notes as to why they decided to rescind your admission. The school also lives and dies by its honor code, especially when it comes to academic integrity.
You stated that you are bringing nothing new to the table this application cycle. It is highly unlikely that you will be admitted.
Back in Post 3 OP wrote ‘because I “didn’t make an active effort to drop it” the GC was relatively pro-rescinding].’
Why would a GC want to see a student he/she wrote a letter for, who snagged an Ivy admission for that HS, get rescinded?
This is likely a situation where
1° someone made Dartmouth aware that a part of your application was plagiarized or false. It took a while for officials to investigate and once that was done, you were rescinded.
or
2° The GC checked “call me” or “due to school policy I can’t discuss an issue” on your final report, holding off on the dropped class as a way to get things moving. Dartmouth called/investigated and found you’d committed a crime, fraud, or cheated.
For them to rescind you in August indicates something that is long to clear up and check, and is serious enough in their eyes that no second chance can be given. They can’t forbid you from reapplying but the fact you were rescinded should be a strong enough indication you’re not welcome at Dartmouth anymore.
In addition, I wouldn’t advise you to graduate in just one year, regardless of the school.
Perhaps spend this year on you start up and applying to other universities. Include a variety of universities since, if the issue is with you final transcript, you may be denied at many places henceforth.
“I was enrolled into the class in mid-March, and I dropped it March 20th. It remained on my transcript but not on my powerschool/schedule.”
the OP did state, to me anyway, that he was enrolled in dual enrollment classes at his community college as well as taking 5 AP classes at his HS
. So IF this is about one of his COLLEGE classes , his statement that he enrolled/ and then dropped it in March is understandable- if that is what happened. I can also see a scenario where the college did NOT let HIS HS GC know that the COLLEGE class was dropped.
Why can’t you just go to Dartmouth admissions office and get a straight answer from them? Surely it’s your right to know why you were rescinded. Rescinding is such a dramatic action that I have to think that they have a very strong reason for doing so.