moonpie
March 16, 2020, 4:28pm
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We got good news!!~ Daughter will be a surgeon, all her friends Matched!
arisamp
March 16, 2020, 4:28pm
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D got the good news this morning. Now, the wait until Friday…
bajamm
March 16, 2020, 4:45pm
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D is matched, now to wait to see the placement (of course) and if it is straight peds or if it is triple board.
And good news here too. DD will be an ED doctor. What a time for that residency!
Hoping Friday brings great placements for all!
Happy dance for all! Now you can exhale and celebrate.
For anyone wondering how specialties like EM (which require mandatory aways for residency application) are going to handle aways being cancelled at many programs, the Council of Residency Directions in Emergency Medicine Education (CORD) has issue the following position statement:
Consensus Statement Regarding SLOEs and Away Rotations
With the unpredictable future of COVID 19, we are aware that institutions have begun alteringthe clinical experience for students, and instituting bans on travel for both their faculty andstudents. Several institutions have already decided not to accept any visiting students forclerkship rotations, and it is likely that others will prohibit their own students from traveling tocomplete away rotations. Further, students may be limited in their ability to evaluate and treatrespiratory complaints, potentially limiting a comprehensive assessment of their clinical skills.
The Council of Residency Directors in Emergency Medicine (CORD) Advising Students Committee in Emergency Medicine (ASC-EM) anticipates that the travel restrictions willsignificantly impact the number of visiting rotations available and the ability of EM bound students to travel to any remaining available rotations.
We anticipate institutional and regional variability in both the spread and response to COVID 19.
Many students will likely be unable to complete any away rotations this academic cycle. Thiswill limit students’ collective ability to obtain Standardized Letters of Evaluation (SLOE) outside of their home institutions. For students without a home residency program, these travel limitations may prohibit their ability to obtain any SLOEs. In this continuously evolving, exceptionally challenging time, we feel that it is important for the educational community to be united and speak with a clear voice. ASC-EM proposes the following recommendations for EM program leadership, medical schools, and EM-bound medical students to consider for the upcoming EM application cycle.
Encourage programs to be flexible with their SLOE requirements
a. Programs have traditionally held non-SLOE letters of recommendation (LoR) in lesser regard. Programs have also traditionally had expectations surrounding the number of SLOEs a student would need to have submitted in order to be considered for an interview (typically 1-2) or rank (typically 2).
b. ASC-EM recommends for application cycle 2020-2021 that residency program leadership consider reducing their typical number of SLOEs needed to review an application to one SLOE (or fewer) to account for students who cannot obtain a SLOE at their home institution. We also recommend programs be willing to accept alternative letters of recommendations to act as surrogates for their typical SLOE requirements as detailed in the paragraphs below.
Encourage programs to give weight to alternative (non-SLOE) Letters
a. Examples of alternative LORs include, but are not limited to, orphan SLOEs (a SLOE from a home EM rotation at an institution without an associated residency program), EM sub-specialty SLOEs , or a letter written by an advisor for the instance that a student has been entirely unsuccessful in obtaining an EM rotation. The CORD website contains instructions and a template for writing such SLOEs.
b. Given the increased emphasis that will be placed on non-SLOE letters, letter writers who are not EM physicians should be made aware of the importance of ensuring their letters address knowledge, skills, and behaviors typically seen in the "qualifications for EM'' section of SLOEs. Standard template for this can be found on the CORD website .
Use of clear language to reflect loss of opportunities:
a. Medical Student Performance Evaluation (MSPE): We anticipate institutional and regional variability in both the spread and response to COVID 19. ASC-EM recommends that institutions include a clear, explicit statement in their MSPE explaining any institutional policy limiting their students’ ability to complete emergency medicine rotations.
b. SLOE: ASC-EM recommends use of a standard verbiage to be added to SLOEs or letters written by advisors for those schools who have students that could not obtain the recommended number of rotations
Encourage students to go on fewer (if any) away rotations
a. Given the possibility of drastically limited EM rotation spots, ASC-EM would like to revise the number of away rotations we have recommended students complete in previous application cycles. In the event that a student is both able to travel from his/her home institution and to secure an available clerkship position at an institution accepting visitors, that student should not perform more than one visiting rotation (for those with a home program), and not more than two, maximum (for those without a home EM rotation). We ask all stakeholders in the EM application process, including but not limited to faculty advisers, clerkships, and students to be cognizant of the number of EM rotations each student
chooses to complete.
We understand that these proposed changes may be uncomfortable for programs, who have relied on SLOEs to be the ultimate representation of a student’s abilities, and for students, who are eager to be able to demonstrate their skills in the audition setting. Ultimately, these recommendations are motivated by preserving the health and safety of our EM community and ensuring that our students who traditionally are at the greatest disadvantage in navigating the application process are not excluded entirely from consideration.
Congratulations to those who know they’ve matched! And best wishes for Friday!
So with all the match day ceremonies canceled, how will they get their envelope results? By email?
srk2017
March 17, 2020, 12:22pm
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All my friends kids including IMGs (US born) matched!
srk2017
March 17, 2020, 12:23pm
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May be schools will open, scan and email? IMGs always get them by email.
Some schools are handing out envelopes and students can take them and open not at the school.
Others are telling their students to look online at 1:00 pm EST.
Adding that many medical schools are pulling students from clerkships as well.
At 1 pm EST applicants can see their Match by logging into the NRMP account.
bajamm
March 17, 2020, 2:43pm
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Last I heard from my kid is that her school would have 5 or so rooms where the med students could go to pick up their envelopes at the same time their ceremony was set to start. They would be assigned a room by alphabet of their last name.
They can go in, get their envelope, then immediately leave campus without opening it until they are off campus.
arisamp
March 17, 2020, 5:27pm
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D’s school had originally said they were going to open envelopes in small groups OR that they could pick up envelopes and open at home. Yesterday, they said NO envelopes.
We are planning to go to D’s house and be there with her when she reads her email.
texaspg
March 19, 2020, 1:13am
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NRMP decided to announce directly to everyone at 12 EDT due to all the match day issues instead of the normal 1 PM.
So excited. My DD matched to her number one choice!
She is a D.O. Student…and I will write her whole story later today. It’s a good one and shows the very fine success D.O. students can have!
moonpie
March 20, 2020, 4:42pm
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My Daughter, her best friends, all matched to their #1 choices!!! HAPPY DANCE. We watched them at their house with a brunch with close friends, and all the families were watching online as well. Super fun! Still crying!
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bajamm
March 20, 2020, 4:43pm
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@thumper I am so happy for your D!
Also, my niece’s husband is a DO doctor. My D was able to set up a family medicine away rotation with him as her supervisor. These days DO docs do have respect among the MD community, otherwise they would not allow DO’s to supervise MD students.
arisamp
March 21, 2020, 12:35am
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We were at D’s place this morning with her. Both she and her roommate were very stressed before the emails came out. The joy on their faces when they read the emails was something to behold. Now to prep for moving her to her new city in a couple of months.