<p>KKK wassup you guys! I done with all the stress from deciding colleges and I chose UCSD Woot! anyway, so this is the story.</p>
<p>I was born in New Jersey so I am a U.S. Citizen. However I live internationally right now. So now that I am going to California, as of 2008~2009, I will be paying out of state tuition. However, because I am a U.S. Citizen, I believe I can be a resident within 1 years. So what I am trying to do is, I am thinking of visiting UCSD early august and plan on getting a drivers license(probably the best way of proving my residency as a californian) and then go back to my country and then start the school year in September. Should I do this or is it ok to just go to the school like two weeks before school starts and will I still be able to pay in state tution starting from 2009~2010? thanks!</p>
<p>Well if you are financially independent since last year, you can establish CA resident within a year. Otherwise, you have to become financially independent ASAP and if you start from now, it's gonna take at least 2 years.. I think.</p>
<p>Woahh, what's with the secret society reference to start the post.. I feel so intimidated right now.</p>
<p>Don't try to cheat the system. You don't live in CA, so pay the out-of-state costs like you should. Plus, you weren't even BORN in California. Sheesh, you don't even have a case.</p>
<p>^
... ***? haha cheating the system.
why would she pay out of state tuition if she doesn't have to?</p>
<p>how is it cheating the system? I am a U.S. Citizen and if I am willing to be a california resident, how is that considered cheating. As a U.S. Citizen don't I have the right to become a resident of any particular state?</p>
<p>You cannot do what you want to do. (The fact that you live internationally is irrelevant - students who live in other states also cannot do what you want to do.)</p>
<p>From the UCSD website:
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To establish residence for tuition purposes, you must satisfy the following three conditions:
1. Physical presence: To establish residence you must be physically present in California for more than one year (366 days) immediately prior to the residence determination date of the term for which resident classification is requested. You must have come here with the intent to make California your home as opposed to coming to this state to go to school.
. . .
3. Financial independence: Students under age 24 who did not attend the University prior to fall 1993 and are not dependent on a California resident parent who meets the University's requirements for residence for tuition purposes (one year physical presence with intent to remain in the state), also must meet the University's financial independence requirement in addition to the 366-day physical presence and intent requirements.</p>
<p>Note: This requirement makes it extremely difficult for most undergraduates who do not have a parent living in California to qualify for classification as a resident at a UC campus. This includes transfer students from community colleges and other post-secondary schools in California.
[/quote]
Current</a> Students: Criteria to Establish Residence for Tuition Purposes</p>
<p>You cannot come to California to go to school (the year(s) that you are in school do not count to establish residency), and you cannot be dependent on an non-California resident to establish residency, even if you meet the 366 day requirement.</p>
<p>If it were that easy, don't you think every out of state student would have figured it out?</p>
<p>wow some of these replies are very strong aren't they?lol happyioaw i am in the same position as you except i was born in illinois:D i will be attending ucsd in the fall and am planning on attempting to establish residency...as the responses u have received here imply, this will not be easy...getting the license will be helpful but the financially independent part is the difficult obstacle...but ill cross that bridge when i come to it however we wont lose anything if we try! so dont give up hope lol
hope this helped!</p>
<p>Man the UC is such a rip off to out of states;; It's hard to get into for OOS and we pay more. Whats the advantage of having a U.S. Citizenship if we are the exact same as internationals;?</p>
<p>You're not treated the same as internationals. It's still easier for an out-of-state American to get in than an international. And you're still eligible for federal aid/loans, and for more financial aid at both state and private schools.</p>
<p>I don't understand what you're trying to do. I thought you were trying to get a license so you can prove to the school that you are already a resident going into the first year (i.e. cheating). Are you getting the license to establish residency for the 2nd year? If that's the case, then it's not really cheating. I thought you were trying to cheat the first year.</p>
<p>yeah the 2nd year lol but still I think I have to be financially independent for two years so I think I have to at best pay for my 2 years for OOS and then two years for in state</p>
<p>"Man the UC is such a rip off to out of states;; It's hard to get into for OOS and we pay more. Whats the advantage of having a U.S. Citizenship if we are the exact same as internationals;?"</p>
<p>Thats kind of the whole point. They're trying to discourage as many out of staters as they can. I was OOS as well, but my dad is a ca resident and had to move OOS with his job and so I was at least able to retain in state tuition. not sure if that also meant I was considered in state for admissions, though.</p>
<p>why would they discourage out of staters and internationals?;;
they are the money line...
places like UIUC just LOVE international students and it's actually easier to get in because they don't get a single dollar of aid because they are international.</p>
<p>I dont think they are trying to dicourage OOS students. I think the reason the tuition is high is because the CA gov. wants to educate students whom will be usefull to california and not those who will use CA as a stepping stone to gain education and make use of their skills somewhere else.</p>
<p>I suggest you talk directly to the UCSD residence deputy and device a plan in order to get CA residency.</p>
<p>I actually just moved here to CA on my senior year. I was previously from GUAM, but when I spoke to a residence deputy I was able to gain residency for the upcoming fall term.:) Luckily my mom was a resident of CA for 10 years. It would suck to pay OOS tuition.</p>
<p>Good Luck ;)</p>
<p>Frankly, the residence deputy doesn't help much because whenever I call them to consult additional information to the UCSD residence info web pages, they just tell you to search more online... In this case, I have no idea why UCSD employes them when they just tell you to get on the internet and look stuff up by yourselve... If you Email them, they reply by highlighting and linking stuff to you with no personal replies. Thus, seeking information from them is useless.</p>
<p>Happyioaw, I know how you feel because I thoght I cold establish CA resident within a year, but I guess not. Also note that the message I reply to you state that you need AT LEAST 2 years to become CA resident because even if you file your own federal tax return this year and next year, they count it as one year since the term is 08-09...This happened to one of many oos ucsd attendants I've talked to...</p>
<p>I believe for happyioaw's situation it would take at least 2 years.</p>
<p>In response to the residence deputy, I think you got to be more assertive. Talk to them in a sort of demanding yet polite manner. If that doesnt work get your parents to talk to them. If that doesnt work, tell them you have no internet. ;p</p>
<p>Also tell them that you have researched about it, but need more info.</p>
<p>ok ok lol so thanks for all the posts. I feel a bit reliefed because I can AT LEAST get it in TWO years. and two years is not cheating or breaking the law at all because within 2 years I will become financially independent and also living in CA for more than one year</p>
<p>how do we get in touch with a residence deputy?</p>
<p>You call them.
Although, UCSD residence deputy is quite hard to speak to. I recommend calling another UC residence deputy. Then get everything legitimized by email with the UCSD res. dep.</p>