REVISED: Princeton/MIT chance request. (Very long/thorough)

<p>Hey sorry haha I think I accidentally copied and pasted half of my post again, so just discard everything after the second paragraph.</p>

<p>Your taking 20 AP tests and 7/8 SAT II tests will NOT look ‘good’ to colleges. You may attempt to show that you really enjoy all that work, but you will likely fail.</p>

<p>You say that you enjoy challenging yourself and taking all these courses… I’m sorry but that’s complete ********. Who could possibly enjoy taking 15+ AP’s and having to deal with so many at one time? And 7/8 SAT II tests… why?</p>

<p>The average number of AP courses that MIT applicants have taken by their senior year is 5 or 6… think about that.</p>

<p>^^this</p>

<p>it looks like you’re trying too hard, in a way. sure, there are kids who love to study/learn. most kids at top schools are there because they love learning. but show it in a unique way. don’t overload on unnecessary tests! do a cool project, do research, apply yourself outside of a textbook! if i were you, i’d focus more on your engineering EC’s and robotics and all and show that that’s what you really love.</p>

<p>as for the work thing, i don’t have much left to say. you’ve made your point but you still come off pretty pretentious - it sounds like you consider yourself above all of the kids you know just because you’d rather be studying. you aren’t better than them. just different. but i know (and i’m not saying this sarcastically) - sometimes it’s hard to be the big fish.</p>

<p>@proace360: Super human quality, really. Sorry.</p>

<p>@golfer111, The Government & anissa: I took a walk and talked with my cousin for a few hours and you guys are totally right. It is pretty ridiculous to do all this. After an incident in 7th grade, I was removed from school and when I returned in 8th grade, I seem to have lost all my friends since they’ve moved and I, connotatively, lost how to talk to others. I guess I concluded that friends weren’t needed, decided to be “independent” and do work myself.</p>

<p>I’ve just realized, thanks to everyone on this forum and my cousin, that I’ve focused so much on education that I never took in regard anything socially. So, I’m going to change what I’m doing by dropping many of the unneeded AP exams like the histories, etc.</p>

<p>Of course, I’ll get that 2200+ SAT score, I know it. In addition, over the summer, I want to exercise everyday by running and we have a local gym. That combined with an actual job will make me feel more comfortable talking to people. I want to get rid of this “nerd” look since everyone I talk to takes me as a very serious person who doesn’t talk much or messes around at all. That usually just makes me getting used by people… I am not going to submit to such things again. :)</p>

<p>anissa, you’re right. I do think I’m above all other people. That’s my problem. I need to fix this. I’m going to change.</p>

<p>So, it’s set. Yeah, talking about this on the Internet isn’t anything at all until you accomplish what you want to do. It’s believable since Longfellow once said, “We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done.”</p>

<p>I’m going to do it and when it’s done, I’ll let you guys know. Thanks. :)</p>

<p>nothing4me, you are right about developing social skills and a “bubbly” personality. For interviews, nobody wants to see a cyborg; they want a breath of fresh air. When I first came to my new school, people thought that I was an academic robot, but I showed them that I’m a normal guy who simply enjoys BME, and it helped me get elected to leadership postions and develop good friendships. Doing this will help you run for student government, aid you for your summer job, and on a sports team.</p>

<p>I’m glad that you’re taking a step back and realizing that you’ll overwork yourself with such a tough academic schedule going on! Best of luck to you! :)</p>

<p>I rarely post to these chance things, but yours really caught my eye. And what is remarkable is that in your last post you intuitively figured out what I was going to suggest. I now think you may be on the right track, because you seem to be able to reflect on your own weaknesses, which most people can’t do.</p>

<p>You seem to already have it figured out, but I was going to suggest that you concentrate on keeping your grades up, getting the very best score on your SATI as you can, and picking two or three SAT IIs and getting excellent scores on those as well. You need over 2200 and probably over 2300 - don’t distract yourself with 9000 AP exams.</p>

<p>If you want to self study some APs, pick a few that interest you and that you feel confident you can score 5s on.</p>

<p>But the thing that really is weird is your extracurriculars - and I think you recognize that now. All those things you are interested in are great, but most of them are things you could do in your bedroom without talking to another person. And unless you really throw your stuff out there - working in groups, and competing against the best, neither you nor the admin folks will know how good your stuff is. THey aren’t going to analyze the fine points of your drawings - all that stuff is subjective. But if you entered some sort of design contest and won statewide, and continued to do that, they would know you were the creme. So it’s fine to have interests in all those things, but I would pick a few that you REALLY love, and work with others, and compete against others - over and over, as much as you can. </p>

<p>I’m an old guy, and an engineer - and science and engineering is more collaborative than most people think. </p>

<p>I’m glad there was no CC when I went to HS. We had one AP class, and I never heard about it until my teacher rec’d me for it. At that time, only about 50K AP tests a year were taken in the whole country. I took 4, one from an AP class, and three just winging them because I was interested in the subjects. I was the only person in my school who took more than one. Things were a lot simpler then.</p>

<p>Jesus. That is one lonnngggg post.</p>

<p>Rejected everywhere, I’d apply to a community college as your reach, if I were you.</p>

<p>;)</p>

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over 9000.
sorry, I couldn’t resist.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>I still can’t see how you can guarantee scoring a 2200 on SATs, when first time you got 600 points less. This alone will keep you out of Princeton/MIT. But even if you get 2200, you’re still fighting an uphill battle, since you’re Asian.</p></li>
<li><p>I don’t see how you can still not be convinced that taking that many APs and SAT IIs. Everyone has commented on this. Firstly, it takes too much time. Secondly, it has no benefit. Cut both in half. No joke.</p></li>
<li><p>I really hope your supplements are as strong as you say they are. </p></li>
<li><p>Can you write good essays? If you slip anything like that “wage-earners” comment in there, you can assume you are rejected.</p></li>
<li><p>Wait, you’re Asian. Good luck with that. I really don’t see MIT or Princeton even considering your app as of now.</p></li>
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<p>Yep, yep I am sure. Bet that computer you’re typing on sure is nice…</p>

<p>Haha a fellow asian. Well.
As everyone else has said, I would invest in less AP’s—the point is that it’s less money and it will lend you more time for a more ENRICHING learning experience instead of a speedy glance and a crutch on generous exam grading curves. You’re very ambitious but 20 APs might not even cut it in college; my friend took AP Bio and went to Bucknell where she did not even recieve any credit for it because Bucknell’s introductory biology course was so much more advanced that the AP course. I would slow it down and enjoy what you are studying on, and yes, it will give you more time to study things in depth and pursue any interests in a certain independent study further.
Keep up a sport, but make sure you don’t fluff it; just tell us it’s an intramural volleyball system.
Have you thought about music in any way? You need to stand out more as an asian.
I would definitely beef up community service as much as you can. I know you’re in key club, but there’s never enough in terms of public service :]
Good luck, happy studying!</p>

<p>You’ll be golden once you get 750+ on your SAT I/IIs.</p>

<p>YOU ARE TRYING WAY TOO HARD.</p>

<p>Colleges don’t like bookworms, or kids who join every club possible and try to make it seem as if they are a “super” student. Colleges like kids that will be successful when they graduate and represent their college name well. Memorizing 20 AP tests material and killing yourself is not going to help you. Sorry.</p>

<p>Instead, i suggest that you try and set yourself apart. Everyone applying to MIT and princeton has at least your SAT score, has consistently gotten 5’s on AP exams, and has 800’s on the SAT II’s…that won’t HELP you at all it will simply make you seem that much more COMMON of an applicant.</p>

<p>Since you like art/architecture, focus on that. Attend a summer camp for art or something…anything that will catch an admissions officers eye.</p>

<p>Not saying you are a bad student, just an overly-driven student focused too much on “immpressing” an admissions officer rather than being yourself and pursuing your passions.</p>

<p>Soccersamdude11:</p>

<p>You probably stopped reading after all the stats. </p>

<p>He did include a stress on “art/architecture”

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<p>What else are you supposed to do to set yourself apart? (besides winning tens of national awards. It’s a bit late for that)</p>

<p>hes just trying too hard to impress colleges and is coming across as sort of fake</p>

<p>I disagree w/ everyone.
The presidential scholar near my house took 20 aps and he got into harvard.</p>

<p>Of coures he also did a lot of other stuff xD</p>

<p>My friend got into Princeton. He only took 4 APs and 3 SATIIs. IMO, USAMO > all those APs + SATIIs.</p>

<p>■■■■■…</p>

<p>I think your obvious passion and focus will get you accepted everywhere assuming you get your SATs up.</p>

<p>Good job CC. My faith in humanity has been very much improved. This has been a very entertaining thread to read. Usually I can’t stand chance threads because why freakin waste your time (and I hate self-promotion) but I’m glad to see that you, nothing4me, have genuinely learned something. All these comments are like a broken record, so obviously you need to change. I hope you take them to heart and don’t just say you’ll change. Actions speak much louder than words. Good luck with everything in the future, OP.</p>

<p>Edit: I just now realized that I was the first post in 4 years on this thread. Uhh wut.</p>

<p>He went to Rutgers…</p>