Revival of Middle Class Black Posters

<p>T-mama, (post #616), thanx 4 the laugh! Funny how perspectives change ain't it? Can't win for losin! Dang law degree; what a waste: I TOLD my mama I wanted to be a go-go dancer . . . then maybe I, too, could "connect with the people" and run for prez!</p>

<p>But back to a previous line of posting -- anyone have any updates on those summer abroad ops and how minorities fare doing "homestays" -- say, in Italy or France (where D wants to go)? D wants an immersion experience, but I'm a tad apprehensive about her reception.</p>

<p>And <em>sheepish grin</em> I hope it's okay to share a little good news from the Super household. D reports first grades on various papers and tests thus far are all in -- and all A's. We are now (finally) exhaling.</p>

<p>Congrats SuperMom! That's great news.</p>

<p>GREAT news SuperMom, you must be proud. :)</p>

<p>Congrats SMIA!! </p>

<p>I don't know about study abroad programs, but I sent my two youngest with a group to Italy last Spring. They had a great time, but were a little surprised at how aggressive the Italian men were towards them. Nothing threatening, but something they weren't prepared for.</p>

<p>Congratulations SMIA. This is wonderful news. Thanks for sharing.</p>

<p>If your child is flown in and invited to a diversity weekend for one of these elite colleges, it means your child is considered highly desirable and top-notched. No institution is going invest in students that they don't think are very competitive and have lots of choices. </p>

<p>On another topic, I have been exploring study abroad programs and a couple of my colleagues who direct international programs told me that there is a big push to get more students of color to go abroad. I think my daughter is going to seriously consider the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. However, I did come across this announcement about Turkey giving scholarships to students of color to come to that country. They would like to attract more low-income (of all races) and kids of color (from any income level). There is a program called Diversityabroad.com</p>

<p>Turkish Coalition of America Offers Opportunities for Minority Students</p>

<p>TCA Announces Expansion of Study in Turkey Scholarships for Minority Students
Program now includes Hispanic and Native American in addition to African American Students</p>

<p>Washington, DC – The Turkish Coalition of America (TCA) has demonstrated its commitment to fostering cross-cultural relations, by expanding its support of study abroad opportunities for American minority students. TCA has announced the extension of opportunities for its "Study in Turkey" scholarship program, initially designed for African American students, to Hispanic American and Native American students throughout the United States. </p>

<p>TCA will be working with members of Congress and African, Hispanic and Native American organizations in the promotion of the scholarships. Under this program, TCA through Diversity Abroad will award up to 100 grants per year in the amount of $2,000 for full-time African American, Hispanic American and Native American students, both at the undergraduate and graduate level, who have been accepted to a study abroad program at a Turkish university. African, Hispanic and Native American students who take only Turkish language classes in Turkey for a semester are also eligible for a $1,000 grant. The program is administered in cooperation with Diversity Abroad. </p>

<p>“The need to build bridges between cultures cannot be overstated,” said G. Lincoln McCurdy, President of the Turkish Coalition of America. “TCA is delighted to offer these scholarships, and we hope that this exposure to Turkish culture will broaden the students’ horizons and will foster friendship, understanding and cooperation between the United States and Turkey. “ </p>

<p>“Global citizens cannot be made only in a classroom or through a computer screen. TCA's generous scholarship will help American minority students, who are significantly underrepresented in study abroad programs, to gain an appreciation for another culture by first-hand experience,” said Andrew Gordon, founder of Diversity Abroad. “Turkey is a diverse country that connects two continents and that has played a pivotal role, both in the past and present, in shaping our modern world." </p>

<p>Students who are interested in doing a study abroad program in Turkey should go to Study</a> Abroad Grants, Scholarships For Minority Students - DiversityAbroad.com , to learn on how to apply for the TCA scholarship.</p>

<p>I am a major fan of study abroad programs. It opens up the world in ways that will never be duplicated. Honestly when will any of us get to spend 4-5 months in a foreign country, get college credit and have our parents pay? :) Seriously for me it was a transformative experience.</p>

<p>As far as home stays I have seen it both as a student and as a parent. As a student it was very interesting to learn how race is approached outside of the US. Trust me, I am not naive. I know racism exists around the globe. But assumptions that we hold as fast truths are quickly challenged when living as a guest in another country.</p>

<p>As a parent I faced this on with DS when he was a home stay in South Africa (Pretoria, no less). It was fine. People that have issues don't sign up to be hosts.</p>

<p>Big shout out to D of SMIA. Way to go.</p>

<p>Great info lmpw, thanx for posting, and I appreciate the congrats from the room -- although I really AM trying recognize that D is now a separate individual, and since she's no longer under my direction, I can no longer claim vicarious credit for her accomplishments <em>sigh</em>. </p>

<p>FLVADAD, did your 2 youngest spend any time in Italian households or did the group stay in a dorm/hostel? After posting this originally, I saw Triguena's post. Thanks for the sensible logic - I'm sure I'm worrying about nothing.</p>

<p>D attended debate camp near Venice in 2006, and did a short Europe trip this summer that cemented her resolve to relocate across the water indefinitely. But both visits involved either dorms or hotels; none involved living for an extended period in someone else's home. </p>

<p>As an aside, if any of you have kids involved in Lincoln Douglas debate, I'd highly recommend IDEA's summer debate institute in Trieste, Italy. D loved it, it improved her skill level immeasurably, and the cost was comparable to sending her to a similar program stateside the following year.</p>

<p>lmpw,</p>

<p>My D did a study abroad at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. She had an amazing time and loved the school (she said she would go back in a heartbeat). It took a minute for her to adjust to the grading system but overall it was a great experience for her. Definitely look at flights through STA travel because this will be one of the cases where there will be a big cost savings. She and most her friends did their study abroad program the term she did so each weekend they would all visit each other in a differnt location .</p>

<p>sybbie719, I'll PM you.</p>

<p>Good morning.</p>

<p>And yet on another topic (but please carry on the travel abroad discussion..we're there).</p>

<p>What are plans for Thanksgiving? The kid's schedule really isn't conducive for her to come home. Last class ends at 3:30 Wednesday and then has an 8AM class on Monday.</p>

<p>We are planning on going to her for the holiday. The drive to DC is tedioius and much too long and through the mountains. We are taking the train. Found a nice hotel near a Metro Station. So train to DC, Metro to hotel. Her campus has a Metro Station. Her assignment is to find a nice restuarant with a nice Thanksgiving dinner!</p>

<p>How are you handling Thanksgiving?</p>

<p>We were planning on going to Atlanta, where we have family, and having D join us there from Durham. Turns out flying Dirham to Atlanta cost her the same as flying to California (at least when we bought the tickets!), so she's coming home. This was REALLY important to her in April. I'm not sure it's as important now. She did mention how all her old friends where getting together in Disneyland this week. She is the only one who left California.</p>

<p>While extended family had hoped we would spend more time in the south having D there, looks like our traditional Thanksgiving in the south will not happen this year.</p>

<p>D gets a full week for Thanksgiving break and will be coming home. :)</p>

<p>ive recently been looking into ursine and christopher newport. im trying to take a gamble and guess at what places i would have the best chance I would recieve an almost full ride at :p</p>

<p>I also forgot Goucher</p>

<p>Hello fellow black middle class parents. As you may remember, D started freshman year at Univ. of Texas this fall. She's doing well and seems to be adjusting to living three hours from home. Now we turn to child number two: 15-year-old S. Could he possibly have come from the same womb? Progress report last night showed F in biology! Why? Completely ignored a major assignment due last week. Didn't even start doing it. Can anyone explain why a person (who did this once two years ago and lost his video game priveleges for two weeks) would do this. I have taken away the game controllers and I will make him do the assignment even if it's too late to get a grade.
I really need to motivate him and I want to find him some other interests too outside of school. He has no ECs so far. Sophomore. Not interested in sports. Has done Top Teens of America, but hated it.
Two questions for the community: Is the punishment enough? The rest of the progress report was so-so. An A in PE, B's in English and Computer Apps. Cs in the rest of classes.I plan to only let him play video games on the weekend now for at least two weeks (pending higher bio grade).</p>

<p>Question two: any suggestions for an EC? Anyone have success with forcing a kid into an EC and having the kid later like the activity?</p>

<p>By the way, he started the school year off strong, but the week away from school for Hurricane Ike seems to have taken away all his momentum.</p>

<p>Texasmama,
If my kid got an F in a class due to missed assignments, the video games would be gone until at least the next marking period grades were available. I would not let him play video games on weekends. If time on facebook/myspace, etc were an issue those would be restricted or gone also. I don't have experience with forcing a kid to do an EC. However, I do have a friend whose D was "only" involved in one EC outside of school. She wanted the D more involved at school, so her rule is that D must do at least one EC at school. Any activity of her choice. Maybe you could try the same thing? Surely there must be one activity at school that he could try outside of sports? If he really doesn't want to do an EC, how about a job instead?
Are his other grades indicative of his abilities? For example, is a C the best he can do or are there organizational or other issues that are causing the C's?</p>

<p>texasmama, I would take away all electronics, such as phone, computer, video games,etc until I felt comfortable with him completeing assignments and showing where the priorities are for now.
As for EC, my D was going into 10th grade, was too young for a job and too old for camp, so I insisted she find some kind of volunteer job to keep her occupied during the summer. She and I decided that we would try the local nature center. She did not really want to do it because she was squeamish about bugs and small animals. Well, it was the best thing she ever did. She not only met some wonderful people, it gave her skills to deal with the public and teach small children about animals. She also learned about the environment working with the naturalists. This EC gave her 250+ hrs of volunteer work and sparked an interest in the environment as well as being a gamechanger in her plans for the future. At the time, she was pursuing her intersts in comercial design and changed her focus to science. She is now a freshman in College and she is a pre med. So it is really worthwhile to push for the EC, you have to stretch their comfort zone.</p>

<p>I am finding as the 14th year of my son's life goes on, that I am not liking the teen years too much. Grades are great, it's the other stuff, (skull shirts, attitude, etc.). Oh youth.</p>

<p>Texasmama,
What you are describing is very typical behavior for boys of all races. The parents I know of all races who are involved educationally with their kids typically have had daughters who got great grades, and sons who despite being very bright acted like your S (and my sons). This includes parents who were college professors like my H and like I used to be.</p>

<p>I tried everything to motivate my sons: paid big bucks to have a professional give them help organizing; had them evaluated for ADD/ADHD (I'm ADHD, and one S is ADD, the other is ADHD, but they both also are smart enough to be able to get good grades like I did), scheduled conferences with their teachers, created elaborate reward/punishment systems based on their doing homework, etc. </p>

<p>Both sons had SAT scores 98th-99th percentile, but both graduated from h.s. with unweighted averages of below 3.0, and with some "D" semester grades. </p>

<p>Both sons claimed to want to go to college, and I stood over older S to make sure he got apps into colleges that he was interested in. He went to college on a virtually full ride, and flunked out because of not bothering to go to class. He's 24, and hasn't returned to college. He does, however, support himself.</p>

<p>I learned my lesson with that S. With my younger S, while I made sure he visited colleges and knew how to apply to colleges, I let him organize himself when it came to applying. He missed all of the deadlines with the colleges that interested him. After that, however, he got an Americorps job created for him (He loved volunteering) and spent the next year living at home (and paying rent) and volunteering for Americorps. </p>

<p>His senior year in h.s., he almost didn't graduate because he had such a backlog of homework that he hadn't handed in. Days before grades were due, he was working night and day writing things like lab reports while other seniors were having fun. </p>

<p>After going through something similar with older S, we had told younger S that if he deep sixed senior year, we wouldn't pay for his first year of college, and wouldn't pay anything toward his college education until he proved to us by getting decent grades for a year -- that he was worth our investment. </p>

<p>So, during his gap year, S applied to 2 colleges (and he also had to pay for those applications), chose the most expensive one of the 2 to go to, and took out loans to help pay for it. He also got some merit aid (His excellent scores, rigorous curriculum and Americorps experience helped). He is now a soph after being on dean's list both semesters of freshmen year, a year in which he worked parttime and was involved in several interesting campus ECs, including as a leader.</p>

<p>As for whether you should force your S to get involved in ECs, I vote "yes." Our house rule was that our kids had to be involved in at least one EC -- either in school or outside of school. If they didn't chose an EC, we'd choose one for them, one that they could drop if they decided to participate in another EC. We did this because we think that everyone should have a hobby, and because one can learn a lot about oneself and the world by doing ECs.</p>

<p>Older S's EC was volunteering with a community paper. For the first 2 years of h.s., I basically picked S's ECs because he could never make up his mind. He ended up sticking with -- and loving -- a community-service oriented EC. By senior year, he was the organization's president, and that year he also won a countywide award for his community service.</p>

<p>Now in college, he picks his own ECs, and, interestingly, they include his diving into some ECs that he had initially tried out in el, h.s. and middle school, but had given up because of his shyness and perfectionism.</p>