<p>SMIA, I'll be following your every trevail (my "middle of the road" kid is class of '11....and (..puffs up chest) as of 12 MN, a "B" student with a 3.128 GPA...but since he "threw away" stuff for a Bio binder check today, who knows what tomorrow will bring...)</p>
<p>Congrats Triguena!</p>
<p>Triguena, </p>
<p>Congratulations to your S. I wish him the best and Franklin & Marshall. It is so exciting to hear such great news so early.</p>
<p>Shrinkrap, how wonderful! I had no idea we had both Class of '08 AND class of '11 in common. Well, well (passes Shrink a bowl of popcorn) -- dig in. Let's chill out in the cheering section for the next few innings til' we're up at bat again.</p>
<p>In the meantime -- anyone have any tips on good summer programs or activities for the collegebound socially astute, but academically indifferent?</p>
<p>I'll second that - - and add college bound, soically astute and civic minded, but academically indifferent.</p>
<p>Congrats Trig!!! Very happy to hear your news. </p>
<p>Shrinkwrap, I meant to tell you that I spent a weekend at Duke a few weeks ago. D2 was in a competition taking place there, and as I said, D3 is absolutely in love with the place. I'm having a hard time getting her to give other schools any serious consideration, but she knows the score -- scholarship or bust! Anyway, I thought about you and D quite a bit while I was there. Hope things are going well. </p>
<p>SMIA, if you're jonesing for hunting down some colleges I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of other kids out there that could use your guidance and assistance. There never seems to be a shortage of those "lost" in the college process.</p>
<p>Trig, congrats to you and your son.</p>
<p>I'm hoping that some of you are, as FLVADAD posted, jonesing for a college hunt and can assist with the following:</p>
<p>D and I are planning to visit Charlotte, NC to visit schools. Queens Univ. a small (1500) private LAC is on D's prelim list. A number of post on "Student Reviews," however, describe the school as "close-minded" and "racist," so of course, I worried. But I'm also reluctant to reject the school based on a couple of anonymous student posts.</p>
<p>Are any of you familiar with Queens Univ.?</p>
<p>And, if we decide to drop Queens Univ., are there other Charlotte area schools we should consider visiting (UNC-Charlotte and several Greensboro area schools are already on the list).</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Hi NYC,</p>
<p>I am not familiar with Queens, but another good small LAC near Charlotte, is Davidson. We visited several years ago, and I was impressed with the college.</p>
<p>Thanks but Davidson admiission is too selective for D, even as a reach. D is looking at schools in the Hendrix/Earlham/Eckerd/Hobart-WmSmith range. We've already settled on schools to visit in Greensboro, but the the Charlottelist is still in flux. I'm still not 100% sure about Queens Univ., and if we decide against Queens, I'll like to get a sense of what other nearby schools might be worth visiting.</p>
<p>nyc,</p>
<p>Queens has an African-American population of about 18%. Maybe look at Gardner Webb. It's a little larger, but not by much, and it's also private. Overall, I think it profiles similar to Queens. Not sure where it is in relation to Charlotte, but might be worth a look. </p>
<p>Also, maybe take a look at Wingate. It's got just under 1,500 students, about 14% African-American, and it's private. Looks like the admissions profile is also close to what you are looking for. </p>
<p>If I recall, you already have High Point on the list too, right? </p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>I didn't know if anyone was following the current problems with Morris Brown College. The city of Atlanta has shut off their water to the entire campus and will not turn it back on until a past due water bill of $380,000 is paid! They are holding a fundraiser right now at the school. They say classes will not resume next semester unless this is paid in full.</p>
<p>Here is the link</p>
<p>Water</a> Shut Off At Historic Atlanta College For Unpaid Bill - News Story - WSB Atlanta</p>
<p>When i was applying to college I never even seriously considered going to a HBCU, (except maybe Howard) I don't really think that being in a homogenous college environment is conducive to great learning. I mean being in a "black bubble" is not indicative of the world and I would not want that, but I suppose that HBCUs are good for ppl who want different experiences than I do.</p>
<p>To qualify, I was making this comment bc the above discussion about the HBCU and the past due water bill. I do not see any concievable way that HBCUs can last into the next century. I mean I do not think that many of the top black students are choosing to go there so the pool they have to choose from is allready self-selecting (as in many other minority groups do not want to attend- well that is what a white girl said), so I dont see much longevity in the entire system.</p>
<p>At the risk of re-engaging Dbate (sorry, I just kind of lost it during the previous affirmative action string) but want to engage debate (civilized discourse) the questioning of any "closed" campus continues to emerge. Are women's colleges redundant? Are HBCUs irrelevant? I believe neither statement is true. Historically both grow from the same root of discrimination in higher ed. However, today women's colleges serve a population that thrives on making sure the feminine voice does not have to be masculinized to be heard. HBCUs continue to serve a population that rejects the notion that an African American centric view is inferior. Both are valid positions. Neither will ever serve the population at large. That's okay. We travel many roads to success.</p>
<p>Very well said, Triguena.</p>
<p>And by the way, dbate, where are you applying. I know that you live near me.</p>
<p>I am applying to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and University of Texas-Austin. I already got accepted to the engineering honors program at UT, so regardless of how things turn out in March I still get to go to a great college :)!</p>
<p>I disagree about the African-American centered view only bc I personally do not feel that it is compatible with the real world. </p>
<p>Surely black ppl should be proud of their history, but I think that just as it is important for ppl to know about the cultural experiences of others. For example I have asians friends and from knowing them I have learned things about other cultures that I would never had known.</p>
<p>I am personally debating if I want my children to grow up knowing the depths of the history of black ppl with the extent of slavery and discrimination. Depending on my wife's race i may decide that it is better for them to only get the "school history" version as opposed to the full depths. Do you (Texasmama or anyone else) think that would be a good idea?</p>
<p>I</p>
<p>I'm a "full depth" fan myself. I want my children to know the worst experiences of ethnic groups that they don't even belong to, as well as the general history of every ethnic group on the planet, ideally.</p>
<p>^^^That would be okay if my wife were black, but what if she is white? I do not want my children to grow up with this conflicting feeling that half of them persecuted the other half. And then I would have to guide them through the emotional turmoil that is likely to follow.</p>
<p>But may children may come out looking completely white (as the children of other black guys my skin color do) so then i will just raise them as if they are white.</p>
<p>I do not want another one of those interracial topics started (learned my lesson about that :)) but I really need to talk to some other black ppl about something that I cannot talk to my parents or peers about.</p>
<p>So this black girl (well black and white technically) who I think is one of - if not the most -attractive girls in my entire school does not date black guys, she only likes white guys, and she feels the need to say so in the most obnoxious and blatant ways (like insulting black guys and mentioning how she is more attracted to white guys when white males are "conveniently" adjacent to black males VERY loudly -_-).</p>
<p>Well anyhow she started this whole process of prolonged flirting with one of my good friends who is white and it is very akward. I constantly have to be around them bc we are all involved in speech and debate and it is just very irksome. I realize I am not the ideal guy for everybody, but really...choosing a good friend of mine in such a glaring way is starting to p-i-s-s me off.
On top of that one of the most attractive black males in our school (no homo but this guy gets ALOT of girls) has been texting her and she shows it to my white friend and I am sure she talks about how she doesn't like black guys and blah blah blah bs bs. And I really am extraordinaly offended. </p>
<p>I am considering just abadoning black girls all together, I realize that this is only a single person, but this is the same girl who I thought was absolutely gorgeous (bc well she is) since my freshman year and I am now a senior, and just the persisant thought and constant image of the two of them is making me incredibly mad. Moreover I have absolutely no way of telling her to calm down without destroying our friendship (I should have mentioned that we are all good friends).
And she does this annoying thing where she hugs me and presses against me (which causes you know what) and I absolutely can not stand it bc I cannot stop thinking that she DOES NOT WANT ME ONLY BECAUSE I AM BLACK.</p>
<p>And to aid insult to injury her sister is absolutely gorgeous too, but she does not date black guys either (which my friend brought up when she, me, and my white friend were getting ready to go to his paintball party--yeah she somehow manages to mention it only when black guys and white guys are together).</p>
<p>On top of this my friend who is the white guy joked that "whenever he sees a mixed girl he always has the desire to make them 'more white' " and that the "only white girls who date black guys are the ones who were fat and couldn't get thier own kind". Which is terrible considering that the girl in question has a black dad and a white mom.</p>
<p>I know these are terrible statements so you are probably wondering why his my friend, but me and all my friends have an odd relationship where we say incredibly rascist things all the time but it is usually innocously (ex. my school has this recurrent joke about 'night riders'-white girls who - and I quote - 'get tore up' by black guys).</p>
<p>Anyway I am resolving that the only way to rectify this situation is to: a)stop dating black girls and be really obnoxious about it in a reciprocal way or b)stop being friends with them. The latter I don't want to do bc we really are good friends, I just would like others input on this because it has been bothering me for like the entirety of Christmas break. And choice A is getting really appealing.</p>