Revival of Middle Class Black Posters

<p>Sounds like a great visit!!! Glad you have found your place!</p>

<p>@reeinaz - I don’t think this thread will end too soon. My son is also in 10th and my youngest daughter is in 7th. Although my oldest daughter is a senior, I still have a while to lurk, listen and learn.</p>

<p>@Supermom - I think you found what most were looking for because you weren’t afraid to look around. Its is really hard to think broadly when the tab is so steep. The comfort for people chasing after a few name brands is that you hope there might be a better return on investment. After putting my D through an expensive prep school, am I still not sure what really is the right answer…</p>

<p>We really enjoyed LMU preview day. I have not seen diversity like that anywhere else in California. We have to look doper, but it could be “the one.” But there are similar options with little or NO “diversity” for 10 to 20K less a year. What’s it worth? Hmmm.</p>

<p>Drum roll please… … Loyola Marymount!!</p>

<p>congrats shrinkrap and son! as a native angeleno, i think your son will really enjoy the city.</p>

<p>Yayyyy for LMU!! Congrats Shrink, this is GREAT! Now you’ll have the inside scoop u can share w/me as D1 is eyeing it for law school . . . :-)</p>

<p>My brother picked an LMU guy for his “entertainment lawyer”… much to the chagrin of the Yale contender.</p>

<p>Congrats Shrinkrap. Wonderful.</p>

<p>Hopefully a discreet response to this…</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1149135-perfect-asian-male.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1149135-perfect-asian-male.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I wonder what kind of credentials and achievements a black male student needs, and what are his odds of achieving them? Even middle class black male students.</p>

<p>I mean I get why there is concern for Asian sons, and daughters for that matter. But at my last sorority meeting, we got a letter about the dire straits of the black male, and we are trying to consolidate our efforts. I can’t help wondering about the odds of the Asian vs. black male. I get that the fault is not with Asian males, and maybe the fault is not with anyone but ourselves. But seriously; the high schoolers come on college confidential, and wish they were born black, but how many Asian parents wish there kids were born something else?</p>

<p>Disappearing back into the forum…</p>

<p>Okay. </p>

<p>I know it’s been FOREVER since any of us have posted here, and I may very well get no reply – but I’m desperate. I NEED the community of other involved parents of college seniors & I have no idea where to find it!</p>

<p>I started posting here when my oldest was looking at colleges. She’s now preparing to graduate and has applied to law schools. Anyone have any idea if there’s another online community, here or elsewhere, of parents (esp. minority parents) discussing students already in college (my youngest), or graduating from it?</p>

<p>My undying gratitude,</p>

<p>SMIA</p>

<p>Hi SMIA!</p>

<p>Hope all is well.</p>

<p>Well, I’m still around even though I don’t get on the boards as much. I started on CC when D1, who has long since finished grad school, started her career, and gotten married, was still in high school (geez, has it really been that long?). D2 is a senior preparing for graduation (oh Lawdy, where did the time go?) and D3 is in her 2nd year now (no really, who hit the warp speed button on my life?). </p>

<p>Unfortunately, I don’t know of any similar online communities except for the grad school sections here on CC. Might have to start a similar thread to this one in there since our kids are now advancing on to new stages. </p>

<p>Off Topic: Has anyone been following the FAMU marching band story? Ugh!</p>

<p>Don’t move to the grad school forum!! D1 has graduated and has a job, but is undecided re: whether a grad prgm (and if so in what area) is in her immed future.</p>

<p>If there’s enought interest, maybe we can get a Black parents forum (like the Black students sub-forum in Admissions). On a somewhat related note, I see that the three of us joined CC at about the same time - - tho FLVADAD is a far more prolific poster, hence his “senior” status.</p>

<p>(FLVADAD - - what’s the story re: FAMU?)</p>

<p>SMIA, Hope that all is well in the law school admissions process. Daughter has graduated and is currently in law school (finals). I would be willing to share what I have learned about the process.</p>

<p>FP, I found a thread here on CC where it’s being discussed. The crux is a student death – possibly liinked to hazing – which apparently, has been an ongoing issue for the Marching 100 for quite sometime. </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1246164-another-death-possibly-due-hazing.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1246164-another-death-possibly-due-hazing.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>sybbie, I would definitely like to hear any advice you have for our law school hopefuls. My daughter has a sponsor for law school as part of a job offer, but she’s conflicted because she always envisioned going on a fulltime basis. I guess I’ve thought the same way, but now I’m beginning to think the work experience might be just as important.</p>

<p>SMIA, visit the law school board on CC. Everyone considering law school should do a great deal of research, with a healthy skepticism, before committing.</p>

<p>What Hanna said.</p>

<p>Carefully review ALL of the implications of attending law school. The entire situation is very different from even a few years ago. The jobs are not there; that is, jobs that can help a young law grad manage over 100 grand in educational debt. Even elite “white shoe” law firms are not hiring like they used to. The market for Ivy and elite grads is tough, while the market for students who didn’t attend top regional law schools is much worse. And legal employment is definitely regional-based. A degree from an elite school like Columbia, Virginia, Washington University, Wisconsin or U of Chicago may not even get one an interview in Los Angeles, Dallas, or Manhattan in these times unless you’re at the very top of your class with ‘Law Review’ on your resume.</p>

<p>The cost/benefit analysis for law school today must be thoroughly examined.</p>

<p>Y’all should SEE me practically SQUIRMING w/pleasure at seeing everyone come on back out t’play! :slight_smile: Nice to see the board back in action. </p>

<p>FLVADAD, I hadn’t read about FAMU. That’s hubby’s alma mater, will have to check out the link. Didn’t understand what you were saying about your D, though – her employer will pay for her law degree? What a great benefit! It really IS tough to work, go to school, and excel at both, however. What does she want to do?</p>

<p>FP, that’s not a bad idea! Interesting tho – I recently read that college admissions are down across the board. Perhaps one reason we’re not seeing a steady stream of “fresh posters” in this thread? Too bad really, 'cause I bet if it were more active, new parents would find it.</p>

<p>Sybbieeeeee!!! :slight_smile: OMG, I could’ve sworn our D’s started undergrad the same year (2008), no? How is it that you have a young lawyer-in-training already?! Does she like it? Does she think she made the right choice? Is she out here on the (“right”) coast?? :wink:
We’re well into the admissions cycle now. Looks like this year, and perhaps next, will be INCREDIBLE years for minority applicants. Law School Applications are down across the board. D’s received acceptances at 3 of the T-14 already, and is hyperventillating from choice-anxiety. It’s PAYING for it that’s likely to set us back. Did u read the articles/stats indicating that 52% of black law students make up the bottom 10% of their class, while there are only 8% in the top FIFTY %?? I’m up nights about that one.</p>

<p>Hanna, thanks for the tip! :slight_smile: I actually did browse thru those threads, even posted once, and got the wakeup call I needed re: the likelihood of law school free rides. Apparently it’s a whole new ball game!</p>

<p>Ok. Off to support my country & complete my daily shopping ritual until the economy improves. . … even if it’s only at dollar store. :wink: </p>

<p>((((hugs)))) and happy greetings all 'round! </p>

<p>p.s. LW!!!, u snuck in there while I was typing this! Leaving the office now, will check in again later 2nite!)</p>

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<p>Yeah, I guess I hear about it a bit more since I’m in Florida. Apparently, some students were arrested today. Yesterday the board voted to reprimand Mr. Ammons, FAMU’s President, in lieu of a suspension. They also fired and and then rescinded the termination of the band director. </p>

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<p>Yes. She interned with their legal dept - did some research projects, reviewed some pending liability exposures under atty supervision, made some presentations, etc. Asked about her future plans, she mentioned law school so they arranged a luncheon for her with one of the local law school deans – I guess a couple attys there are alums. They followed that up with a formal job offer that included paying for said law school. Ostensibly, that’s the carrot being used to persuade her to take the job in lieu of going straight to law school fulltime.</p>

<p>FLAVDAD, the offer sounds wonderful!!</p>

<p>ITE, going part time, especially on the firm dime is a real gift (~150k in tuition alone). She would only be doing an extra year with hopefully associate/in-house position pretty much guaranteed (unless she is looking to practice elsewhere). If she is interested in the practice area that she is currently working in, she would be getting the best of both worlds; work experience and graduating debt free. It is really worth a thought.</p>

<p>Remind her that law schools, which offer any kind of need based aid will still look for the income/assets from you (her parents) along with her income assets. If she is looking for merit aid, it is not given the same way as undergrad. Grades are on a mandatory curve, so everyone will not be getting A’s. It won’t be because you are not working hard, because every one is working hard and every one is smart (in that way it is almost like undergrad again, where all of your classmates were the top dog in high school). There are many stories about students who have lost their scholarships, because they could not maintain 3.3-3.5 gpa required to keep the money and then ended up losing their scholarships.</p>

<p>As for mine, her hands were full this term with classes, moot court, BLSA, being a big sister to a middle schooler, and writing a note for journal (silly me thought what was the big deal until she told me that it was over 50 pages).</p>

<p>Oi. Sybbie, forgive me. Seems I momentarily confused you w/Shrinkrap, who IS on the West Coast. You’re on my side o’the continent. Sounds like your D is truly embracing the law school experience. Journal AND moot court? That’s one busy young woman! :-)</p>

<p>Funny, when she began college, my older D was dead set against being “pigeonholed” into participation in ethnicity-based groups, despite being the recipient of a scholarship on that basis. Three years later & a whole lot wiser, I’m breathing a little easier as she confides she “understands now” the value of having a “community” of those with similar cultural background. She’ll definitely be joining BLSA.</p>

<p>@ LW I hear your caution and agree. Unfortunately, being a laywer is the only thing D ever wanted to be and the only career for which she’s single-mindedly prepared. Her undergrad dbl major would likely clinch her only the grand title of Convenience Store Cashier, so grad school was a given. I can’t lie, I’m concerned, but she’s going in w/eyes open and shooting for the best school to which she can gain entry. Hopefully that, a li’l talent, and some dogged determination will see her thru.</p>