Rice or Emory for pre-med?

<p>I have applied ED to Rice (hopefully I will get in) and will apply RD to Emory.
I was just wondering which school is a better route to medical school.
I know that Rice sends ~200 to medical school (3,000 undergrads) and Emory ~300 (6,000)
so the percentage at Rice is higher.
Also, Emory has not only their own medical school, but also their own hospital system. Rice has neither. In addition, Emory has close ties with the Carter center and the CDC. Rice is however situated directly across the street from the largest medical center in the world and from what I understand it is very easy to get research done. The Texas Medical center has 13 hospitals and two medical schools.
Also, which major would be best. At Emory I would definitely take Neuroscience but at Rice, I would want to major in something else (maype psych) with a minor in biochem. Which place is easier to get the highest grades with the least amount of competition. I hear everyone at Rice is ultra friendly and I do like it better overall (hence why I did ED).
So aside from all that, which school, Rice or Emory, is better in terms of pre-med programs and sending graduates to medical school.</p>

<p>go for Emory since they have their own medical school, therefore they may be able to prepare you better for med school</p>

<p>Statistics about how many undergrads go to med school can be very misleading, they are not a good indicator of where you should go to college. Emory and Rice are both excellent, you should get good premed advising at both. Go to the one you like as you'll be happier and will do better. No one major is better than another, it's all WHAT you do, not the major. </p>

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<p>First, this is not a good reason for choosing Emory. Second, Rice is near, and has a strong working relationship, with Baylor (as in Rice/Baylor BA/MD program).</p>

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go for Emory since they have their own medical school, therefore they may be able to prepare you better for med school

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<p>Completely and utterly ridiculous and untrue - sorry, dude....</p>

<p>Yeah, having your own med school has very little to do with getting you prepared for med school. Rice has a bs/md program with Baylor, so I'd go for that (I wish I knew about it when I was a senior. Actually I wish I knew I'd want to be a doctor when I was a senior... :()</p>

<p>Normally, I'd say that med school acceptance rates don't matter but Rice's is actually 35% better than Emory's which is interesting. There's no way Emory should have an acceptance rate of 55% with the caliber of freshmen it enrolls.</p>

<p>^ where are you getting the acceptance rate of 55?</p>

<p><a href="http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Health_Stats_0108.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Health_Stats_0108.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>55% is actually the high end of the estimate.</p>

<p>hmm, that is interesting</p>

<p>ncg,
My comment about not putting a whole lot of weight on med school acceptance stats was based on the belief that schools calculate these numbers in different ways and so are not readily comparable. Is that not true, is there a place where you can get unbiased stats on med school acceptance from various undergrad colleges??</p>

<p>Thanks, em</p>

<p>Nope, I agree with you 100%. The calculations that different schools do can really affect the acceptance rates. For example, Cornell only counts allopathic med schools whereas a school can count all med schools (MD, DO, carribbean) if it really wants to boost its med school acceptance rate. LAC's are especially good at manipulating numbers because they send out so few med school applicants. For example, Swarthmore last year had SIX senior med school applicants. If it could convince 1 or 2 of the weaker ones to not apply, a LAC can easily boost its med school acceptance rate 10% or more. For that reason, I don't necessarily think there's a significant difference b/w, say, 78% and 87%. I think if you're over 70%, you can be considered a "good" premed school.</p>

<p>Now, I don't think there's a way for Emory to calculate that would get its numbers down to 52%. That's why I find its numbers alarming. They're just too low.</p>

<p>Thanks for the clarification ncg! Yes, it is interesting about Emory, I'd expect them to be right up there with the top feeders too.</p>

<p>In your case, this question will only become important in the event that you get deferred then accepted to Rice, and accepted to Emory. The odds that both of these things will happen are probably not that high, but for what it's worth, here are my thoughts on your question.</p>

<p>I, like you, applied ED to Rice and RD to Emory and wanted to go into medicine. You surely had some reasons to apply ED to Rice, so this should partly answer your question.</p>

<p>I personally think Rice is the better school for pre-meds because it is smaller and you'll be easily able to find opportunities to do research (especially since there aren't too many grad students), and get involved in leadership roles in extracurriculars that you'd have more competition for at a larger school. You'll also be able to form close relationships with professors, which will come in handy should you need advice, academic help, or good recommendations (for med school applications, interships, etc.)</p>

<p>Don't be concerned that Rice doesn't have it's own med school. You will be right across the street from the Texas Medical Center and will have opportunities to take classes, volunteer, shadow, or do research there (if you take initiative to arrange these opportunities - usually as simple as an e-mail or two).</p>

<p>And, Rice may soon have it's own med school: Baylor</a> Med School, Rice University discuss merger | Moms | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle</p>

<p>As others have mentioned, you can and should apply for the Rice/Baylor program if you want to go to med school, it's not a binding program and relieves a lot of undergrad stress if you get in.</p>

<p>Now, you won't go wrong by going to Emory, but if it comes down to Rice vs. Empry, I wouldn't hesitate to ask Emory about the low med school acceptance rate. I agree with NCG - that is lower than I had expected regardless of how they calculate it. You may also end up paying substantially more to go to Emory, depending on how your family finances/financial aid packages are.</p>

<p>By the way, I'm now a first year med student, after being accepted to Rice ED and then being accepted to Rice/Baylor, so for me it's worked out great!</p>

<p>Hi jenskate, </p>

<p>Good to see you posting again and glad to hear that all is going well with med school. I really appreciated your posts two years ago when my D applied to Rice and was contemplating the Rice/Baylor program. At the time she wasn't completely sure she wanted to go into medicine and so she decided not to apply to R/B. She's now a soph and is taking premed course work.</p>

<p>Take care and thanks for the great information, em</p>

<p>well I did not know that the rate of medical school acceptance for Emory was only 50%, that's atrocious. And math wise, Emory sends 20% of their graduates to medical school whereas Rice sends ~33% (although they have fewer people). But for Emory that also means around 40% were pre-med. To me, that is A LOT of competition to fight through. I think Rice is the better choice for me after all. RICE!!!</p>

<p>The above links no longer work. Here are the updated Emory statistics for the 2008 admissions year</p>

<p>Schools of Matriculation
<a href="http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/PreHealth_Stats_Ann_Rpt_2008.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/PreHealth_Stats_Ann_Rpt_2008.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Acceptance rates by MCAT score and GPA
<a href="http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Applicants_Emory_2008_Matrix.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.career.emory.edu/parents/pdf/Applicants_Emory_2008_Matrix.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>^ Thanks for the links :).. I was just lurking and was trying to find an updated set myself</p>

<p>does it really matter where you go to undergraduate for pre med? is emory's pre med really that brutal??</p>

<p>any insides?</p>

<p>Rice is in the process of purchasing Baylor medical school, so that is a major plus for them
and you can't beat being across the street form texas med center!!!</p>

<p>I have yet to see statistics posted for Rice acceptances. Where are yall getting these numbers?</p>