<p>stayoutofriverside, that is COMPLETE EXAGGERATION!!!!!!!!! </p>
<p>I did this before, and I had the opportunity to talk to two very smart and very nice kids who were enjoying UC Riverside and gave me pros as well as cons of the school. </p>
<p>In fact, I'd say almost every student at UCR is more intelligent than how you portray them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>"Remember the top 25% of UCR is equivalent to the BOTTOM 25% of UC Berkeley, if you look at GPA and SAT scores. Being an "honors" student from UC <em>RIVERSIDE</em> means absolutely nothing"</p>
<p>By this, argument, the bottom 25% of Berkeley IS COMPLETELY RETARDED TOO. </p>
<p>I'd like to point out that stayoutofriverside initially did have some arguments earlier on, but a majority of his/her posts are LIES AND EXAGGERATION. MAKE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT, GO TALK TO THE STUDENTS THAT GO THERE... AND YOU'LL FIND OUT IN REALITY THAT UCR IS NOT A TOP SCHOOL, BUT IT DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE DEGRADED THE WAY stayoutofriverside IS PUTTING IT THROUGH. </p>
<p>stayoutofriverside is just that one disgruntled student that you have at every school.</p>
<p>Yes, I admit that my counterargument was poorly constructed. I'm sorry that I have better things to do with my time than sit here thinking of different ways to say things just to sound like I'm better than everyone (holier than thou, are we?). Just because my counterargument here wasn't up to par with your standards doesn't mean I can't do any better otherwise. We may not seem to be on your level of "intelligence," but you are quick to judge. Who do you think you are? You witness one weakness of a person, and you suggest that that person would make a fine candidate for UCR, without knowing all other things. We make a few statements that you don't agree with and you insult us. Seriously, stayoutofriverside, does it make you feel that much better about yourself when you put others down? For someone who graduated from a top-15 med school, that's a little immature, don't you think? Perhaps your jump from UCR to a top-15 has gotten to your head.</p>
<p>UC_hopeful wrote: Yes, I admit that my counterargument was poorly constructed. I'm sorry that I have better things to do with my time than sit here thinking of different ways to say things just to sound like I'm better than everyone (holier than thou, are we?). Just because my counterargument here wasn't up to par with your standards doesn't mean I can't do any better otherwise. We may not seem to be on your level of "intelligence," but you are quick to judge. Who do you think you are? You witness one weakness of a person, and you suggest that that person would make a fine candidate for UCR, without knowing all other things. We make a few statements that you don't agree with and you insult us. Seriously, stayoutofriverside, does it make you feel that much better about yourself when you put others down? For someone who graduated from a top-15 med school, that's a little immature, don't you think? Perhaps your jump from UCR to a top-15 has gotten to your head.</p>
<p>Wow, stayoutofriverside, I just to say one last thing. I wouldn't know whether ignorance is bliss. You, on the other hand, would have a better idea. But whatever. </p>
<p>Interestingly, UCR has the Institute for Integrated Genome Biology. This is actually on par with the research facilities on UCSD's Gilman Road</p>
<p>Funny how your point of the classes being taught in a trailor. That did not hold up to well. See, I asked that to my 3rd yr friend in the program, he laughed and said no. Funny.</p>
<p>Interestingly only 30% of UCSD students go to graduate school. While 37% at Riverside go to graduate school. Hold on, UCSD is a TOP TIER UC!!!! (source: Princeton Review). This implies that they (UCR grads) were smart enough to enter into a graduate program. They had high enough scores on the GRE or LSAT or MCAT to enter into some graduate program.</p>
<p>Times Magazine, in the late 1960s, stated that UCR was the Dartmouth of the west. It is sad, that it no longer this distinction. However, it is a good school. I will agree that it is not a great school. But your comments are a grossly untrue depection of the university. </p>
<p>The reason why I do not attend UCR is simply because it is too close to home. Sunnymead Ranch, a gated master planned area (where I live) is 7 miles from campus. A touch too close. UCI was too close as well. That's why I chose UCSB. </p>
<p>A typical UCR grad makes approx the same amount as a UCLA grad (5 yrs out, with bach. degree) (source: Fait Lux).</p>
<p>UCSB_DUDE wrote: "Funny how your point of the classes being taught in a trailor. That did not hold up to well. See, I asked that to my 3rd yr friend in the [Thomas Haider Biomedical Sciences] program, he laughed and said no. Funny."</p>
<p>I think it's sad that you've resorted to MAKING UP facts. The 4th year of the Thomas Haider program (1st yr med school) is taught in the BASEMENT of the statistics building. The 5th year of the program (2nd year med school) is taught in a set of TWO TRAILERS, located right next door. Search the UCR map for "Biomedical Teaching Complex" and you'll see these two tiny rectangles - those are the trailers. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that your so-called "friend" doesn't know where the classes are taught. I doubt you actually have such a friend or have spoken to him.</p>
<p>Why don't you ask "your friend" WHERE the classes are taught for year 5 (2nd year med school), if he supposedly insists it's not in a trailer.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I think you owe an apology to me and everybody else here for misrepresenting yourself and providing deliberate false information. </p>
<p>Santa Cruz has a cool mascot and great intramurals. I know because I have friends there and they love it. And I visited there and I ate at one of their cafeterias and it was delicious. They had better cafeteria than berkeley. They even made my omelet on the spot. The only thing I didn't like about Santa Cruz is that everything is uphill.
Besides that, Santa Cruz is WAY better than Riverside.</p>
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<p>if one is going for engineering Santa Cruz would be the best because during a ucsc presentation, they told us santa cruz engineer students can get a dual degree one from sc and one from berkeley. Santa Cruz and Berkeley has some kind of program together and as a result I think most of the upper division classes are held at berkeley. Correct me if i am wrong though.</p>
<p>the diversity sucks? are you kidding me? UCR has 69% diversity, the fourth most diverse public school in the country according to the US News report. stealthvs123 should walk around UCR before he/she makes these unfounded comments.</p>
<p>Unless there is a particular major at UCR that UCSC doesn't have, I gotta vote for Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz is in a beautiful area, not just the campus, but the surrounding Monterey Bay area is just great. I think you'll just find it to be a better enviornment and if you're from San Diego, I don't think there is any question but that you'll prefer Santa Cruz.</p>
<p>In response to ucsb<em>dude's previous post... While I do have a great deal of respect for UCR, considering it is a campus of the University of California whose research impact greatly overshadows those of many flaghsip state universities (such as The University of Tennessee, The University of South Carolina, The University of Massachusetts, and The University of Arizona), I believe it is rather asinine to compare it to UCSD. 33% of UCSD graduates immediately enter graduate or professional school (<a href="http://admissions.ucsd.edu/dev2/campus/after.html%5B/url%5D">http://admissions.ucsd.edu/dev2/campus/after.html</a>), and while this is less than UCR's (uncited) 37%, the reason might be that many UCSD grads do not feel the need to go to graduate school with San Diego's wireless tech and biotech industries offering them 50k+ salaries fresh out of SD. Furthermore, while UCSD is known as a traditionally pre-med focused school (with a higher percentage of Revelle College graduates earning MD's and PhD's than any other public institution in the US) its graduates still obviously fare well in law and business school admissions. Only UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, and Harvard sent more of its grads to UCLA Law than UCSD did: Berkeley sent 24, Stanford and Harvard sent 23, and UCSD sent 22 (<a href="http://www.law.ucla.edu/home/index.asp?page=1218%5B/url%5D">http://www.law.ucla.edu/home/index.asp?page=1218</a>). I'm sorry if I'm lavishing an unhealthy amount of praise on my school, but I was initially going to remark on how I believe the UCM vs. UCR vs. UCSC debate is a valid one... until I noticed ucsb</em>dude's comparison, that is.</p>
<p>I don't think it is possible for UCR to have a worse Literature department than UCSC's. As bad maybe, but not worse, and having one as bad would take a whole lot of trying. Academically I know little about Riverside beyond its general reputation as the worst of the UC campuses, and that its business department is pretty good.</p>
<p>UC campuses in general are better than the state college system due to having a much smaller proportion of adjunct (temporary hire for a single class) faculty. About 60% of the CSU faculty overall seem to be adjunct as opposed to tenure & tenure track faculty. The proportion of adjunct faculty at any given UC campus varies a lot - UCSC has one of the lowest - under 10% (a few years ago it was unde 5%). I have no idea what UCR's is.</p>
<p>Socially there is no comparison between UCSC and UCR - the former is far superior. OTOH, commuting can be a major problem at UCSC. UCR I don't know about.</p>