Rogawski Math 32a and Chem20a Textbook

<p>I am trying to buy these books outside of UCLA to save some money. However I am very confused. </p>

<p>1.First of all, the UCLA store says my textbook is called “Single Variable Calculus”. Why on earth am I buying a single variable calculus book when math 32a is a multivariate course (isn’t it?)</p>

<p>2.Does the trick to find the ISBN of textbooks still work? When viewing the source code, I don’t see a letter at the end of the string of numbers that is supposed to be the ISBN like everyone says. Is this value still the ISBN?
(Accoring this trick, the ISBN for the Math 32a book is 9781429214353 and Chem20a is 9780495481041.)</p>

<li><p>I can’t find a textbook with these ISBN’s anywhere, not even on the publisher’s website. However, I have found a textbook with the same name as the Math 32a book that looks to be right, [url=&lt;a href=“http://www.bfwpub.com/newcatalog.aspx?disc=Mathematics&course=Calculus&type=Single+Variable+Calculus&isbn=1429210710]here.[/url”&gt;http://www.bfwpub.com/newcatalog.aspx?disc=Mathematics&course=Calculus&type=Single+Variable+Calculus&isbn=1429210710]here.[/url</a>]
Is this the right book?</p></li>
<li><p>According to UCLA, the name of the 20a book is “Oxtoby (New Low Price) Princ Mod Chem (6th)(pkg W/custom Ssm Oxford Cou)”.
What does “Oxford Cou” mean? And I thought there was an additional course reader that I am supposed to buy, how come it says I only need to buy this book? I also thought that there is some textbook called zumdahl that I am supposed to get? The UCLA store doesn’t say I need it.</p></li>
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<li><p>I am assuming that you have Rogawski for 32A. This is his book, and I would guess that he has multivariable material in his own publication.</p></li>
<li><p>I think Scerri is doing something different this year. There is a super expensive package sold at the UCLA store for 20A, since they are implementing the 6th edition now. Only the book is necessary, and the SSM could probably be found elsewhere.</p></li>
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<p>I do not know if there is a reader this year. Zumdahl was used in previous years I think, and even for 20B, but probably not required this year.</p>

<p>the trick still worked for me when looking up the book for ward for math32a, it was the 13 digit isbn and it worked without the letter on it</p>

<p>bump</p>

<p>is [url=<a href="http://www.thomsonedu.com/thomsonedu/student.do?topicid=2C0A&sortby=copy&type=all_radio&courseid=CH04&product_isbn=9780534493660&disciplinenumber=12%5Dthis%5B/url"&gt;http://www.thomsonedu.com/thomsonedu/student.do?topicid=2C0A&sortby=copy&type=all_radio&courseid=CH04&product_isbn=9780534493660&disciplinenumber=12]this[/url&lt;/a&gt;]
the chem 20a textbook? Should I buy the whole package that UCLA offers or just get the textbook?</p>

<p>I think that book and the solutions manual make up the package (and the Oxford coupon book, which I've heard is an unrelated addition). I can't be sure because I can't verify the ISBN, but I think that's right.</p>

<p>Anyone taking Chem20a in the fall buy their textbook used or outside of UCLA?</p>

<p>Just a quick comment: When I was in college, I had a few Math, Chemistry and Lab classes where the professors had written the book. I liked it, because you could get away with taking fewer notes in class because the book always matched the lecture perfectly.</p>

<p>what does the Chem package UCLA sells come with exactly?</p>

<p>bump10char</p>

<p>Not to hijack the thread, but it seems those who are taking chem 14a this quarter are in the same predicament. The UCLAstore listing is </p>

<p>Atkins
Chemical Princ : Custom Ucla Ed (Vol 1)(4th) W/mod</p>

<p>So, what to do? Get the fourth edition somewhere else for about $60-70, or get the custom UCLA edition at the store for $84?</p>

<p>This response will hopefully clarify the latest posts:</p>

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Should I buy the whole package that UCLA offers or just get the textbook?

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what does the Chem package UCLA sells come with exactly?

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<p>If you consult the textbook website, <a href="http://www.uclaestore.com/ucla/textbooks.asp?mscssid=FBDL6391LL6P8PV22TTHTCEK88UJ9DC7%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.uclaestore.com/ucla/textbooks.asp?mscssid=FBDL6391LL6P8PV22TTHTCEK88UJ9DC7&lt;/a>, you will find that the package includes the 6th edition Oxtoby book, the custom SSM which is only for the chapters covered, and possibly the coupon book that grapesoda suggested. I doubt there will be a reader this year. I looked through the new edition of Oxtoby, and it is more clear than Zumdahl in my opinion.</p>

<p>The great thing is that you can use it for 20B.</p>

<p>You can get the book for free through an ebook, but I doubt anyone would want to read their textbook through a smaller source. If you want that, message me. You can also print out each page of it .. to save money.</p>

<p>Another idea is that you can buy the UCLA custom book, covering chapters 1-6, 8, 20. This was covered in Summer 2007. It is significantly cheaper than the $200 at the UCLA store. I will provide this link upon request.</p>

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So, what to do? Get the fourth edition somewhere else for about $60-70, or get the custom UCLA edition at the store for $84?

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The custom edition means the book size is reduced to only what the course covers. This reduces the price of book as well. Unless you enjoy being a patron of UCLA, I would look elsewhere to purchase the book. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>so the book sold at the UCLA store has all the chapters, not just the ones UCLA covers? Where can I get the reduced version of this textbook? And where can I buy the student solutions manual separately?</p>

<p>^ I think you've got them switched, the reduced version is at the UCLA store.</p>

<p>oh, it's the solutions manual thats reduced. Where can I buy the reduced solutions manual separately? I plan on buying an international edition of the textbook elsewhere so I don't need it.</p>

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I think you've got them switched, the reduced version is at the UCLA store.

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I don't agree with this. The UCLA store will package the original 6th edition textbook, and the custom SSM that wowx said.</p>

<p>I don't believe you can get the reduced SSM at UCLA; try Textbook plus.</p>

<p>So custom edition isn't at the UCLA store? or am I misunderstanding?</p>

<p>Does anyone know if the international edition of the Chemistry 20A book (Principles of Modern Chemistry) is the same as the domestic one?</p>

<p>Also, is the separately packaged SSM at the UCLA store the same as what's being sold in the bundle? The bundle says 6th edition, which I assume is for the textbook, but the separate SSM says 5th edition. [<a href="http://www.uclaestore.com/ucla/textbooks.asp?mscssid=90MQ0T60B43H9KU3GJCRV5EEUX8V2T6A&pf_id=0495413089X&method=author&type=2&parent_name=Problems+%26+Student+Solutions+Manual+%285th%29+F%2F+Chem+&origination_id=W&catalog_id=0&source_page=search%5Fresults%2Easp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.uclaestore.com/ucla/textbooks.asp?mscssid=90MQ0T60B43H9KU3GJCRV5EEUX8V2T6A&pf_id=0495413089X&method=author&type=2&parent_name=Problems+%26+Student+Solutions+Manual+%285th%29+F%2F+Chem+&origination_id=W&catalog_id=0&source_page=search%5Fresults%2Easp&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/p>

<p>Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>What you guys should do is just buy the textbook and forego the solutions manual. The book probably has the numerical answers to odd #'d problems in the index but without a detailed explanation. If you want to look at the detailed answer just check out the solutions manual from the library since it's most likely going to be on reserve. You can even ask the prof. to provide a copy for the library if it's not already there. Either that or bum off the manual from a friend every so often and Xerox relevant pages.</p>

<p>Will the chem books themselves be on reserve at the library?</p>

<p>^Yup.</p>

<p>Here's the info for the Calc & Chem book</p>

<p><a href="http://www.whfreeman.com/newcatalog.aspx?isbn=1429210710&disc=Mathematics&course=Calculus&detail=package%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.whfreeman.com/newcatalog.aspx?isbn=1429210710&disc=Mathematics&course=Calculus&detail=package&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Principles of Modern Chemistry, 6th Edition
David W. Oxtoby - Pomona College
H. Pat Gillis - University of California - Los Angeles
Alan Campion - University of Texas at Austin
ISBN-10: 0534493661<br>
ISBN-13: 9780534493660
1104 Pages Casebound
© 2008 Published </p>

<p>Student Solutions Manual for Oxtoby/Gillis/Nachtrieb's Principles of Modern Chemistry, 6th Edition
Oxtoby/Gillis/Campion
ISBN-10: 0-495-11226-7
ISBN-13: 978-0-495-11226-6
320 pages
© 2008</p>