<p>So I'm guessing a lot of kids applying to Wharton are also applying to Ross and vice versa. I was wondering what the pros and cons of each business school was. I know Wharton has had a solid reputation for a long time but Ross seems to making significant gains in the past few years. Any input would be appreciated.</p>
<p>sorry...wharton</p>
<p>umm wharton is the best business school in the country. The only problem being that it is ridiculously hard to get in.</p>
<p>Wharton is the best, without question. Ross is somewhere after that, but I'm not as impressed with it as the rankings seem to portray. But I've only taken one semester so far, so I'm in no position to judge at this point. If you're thinking about Wharton and Ross, you should also consider Stern.</p>
<p>wharton is definately better. and only consider stern if you want to go into finance/ibanking stuff</p>
<p>ross sucks.</p>
<p>Wharton is the #1 Business school in the World. Ross is one of the top 5 at the undergraduate level and one of the top 10 at the MBA level, so it is not far behind. Obviously, if you really love the overall feel of Michigan/Ann Arbor more than the feel of Penn/Phili, than Ross could be a better choice, but in terms of overall excellent, Wharton is in a class of its own.</p>
<p>i love philadelphia.</p>
<p>Ross is 3rd (tied with berkeley).
Wharton is 1.</p>
<p>I gurarantee you that the top students at Ross could outdo the average student at Wharton in terms of receiving interviews and job offers from top i-banking institutions and consulting firms any day of the week. Overall, Wharton has a better undergraduate business program than Ross but there are several key advantages that Ross holds.</p>
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<li><p>incoming preadmit freshman class is smaller in size(~50 kids rather than the 400 or so that Wharton takes every year I think) so each business student gets much more individualized attention</p></li>
<li><p>Ann Arbor>>>East Philly(don't even bother challenging me on this point)</p></li>
<li><p>more opportunities for interaction with professors since student:instructor ratio is much lower than it is at Wharton</p></li>
<li><p>UMich social life>>>UPenn's social life(no getting drunk while at Mathcamp doesn't count)</p></li>
<li><p>UMich sports(basketball and football-i.e. the sports that matter)>>>UPenn(yay go Quaker Badmington...not)</p></li>
<li><p>Umich is better than Wharton at certain business departments(Marketing and Economic theory comes into mind)</p></li>
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<p>Um, I hope you know that most of the people in Michigan business (or atleast a significant number) apply during their freshman years for Ross, which starts sophomore year. Also, I would think that Whartonites have better job placement (not by much though), especially in top firms. Think of Wharton like HYPS and Ross like the other Ivys/top 20 schools. They are equal academically, but Wharton's name is just so much better (this may not be as true in the midwest, but for wall street, you can't beat the Wharton name).</p>
<p>venkateer, in terms of job placement, I think Ross and Wharton are closer than you think, even in top firms. If you look at the top 10 IBanks and the top 5 MC firms, Wharton outplaces Ross 2:1 but then again, Wharton is twice larger than Ross. Here are some numbers:</p>
<p>TOP 10 INVESTMENT BANKS
COMPANY : WHARTON PLACEMENT: ROSS PLACEMENT
Citigroup : 36 : 4
Goldman Sachs: 27 : 10
UBS : 14 : 11
CS First Boston : 11 : 10
Deutsche Bank : 8 : 6
JP Morgan : 6 : 12
Lehman Brothers : 6 : 3
Morgan Stanley : 5 : 3
Lazard : 4 : 2
Merrill Lynch: 4 : 4
TOTAL IBs: 119 : 65</p>
<p>TOP 5 MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS:
COMPANY : WHARTON PLACEMENT: ROSS PLACEMENT
McKinsey : 12 : 5
Boston CG : 7 : 4
Bain : 4 : 2
Booz Allen : 4 : 2
Mercer : 3 : 1
TOTAL : 30 : 14</p>
<p>As you can see, those two programs place an equal percentage of their students into those exclusive firms. And starting salaries are also almost identical. I do not deny that Wharton is the unquestioned #1, but there isn't that much of a difference between Wharton and Ross in terms of quality and placement. If one is only interested in Business education, Wharton is the place to be. But if a person wants a balanced college experience, Michigan could be a better fit.</p>
<p>Placement as Ross is amazing. Unfortunately, the OCD isn't open to sophomores (yet), but I heard that it's a great resource for job searching.</p>
<p>In terms of educational quality, there probably isn't much difference in what you learn, and both schools will challenge you. However, I am a bit disappointed that my ACC 272 class will be taught by a GSI.</p>
<p>Redhare, intro to Accounting is a very dry subject, regardless of who is teaching it. There isnt much that a professor can add to the class that a GSI can't.</p>
<p>I think Klemstine did a great job taking a dry subject and making it (sort of) interesting in 271. The recitation leaders (MAcc students) weren't so good with the material, and those GSI's are the same ones that will be teaching 272. Some of the sections did get the main professor to teach, but I hope in the end it's all the same.</p>
<p>i'm taking klemstine next term. any suggestions?</p>
<p>evil<em>asian</em>dicatator.. u don't even know what you're talking about.
penn campus is absolutely amazing. you've probably never even seen it.</p>
<p>I have seen it Forgiven. I spend a month at Penn. Its campus is not amazing. It is an average campus with a very mediocre social life. Cannot compare to Michigan in most respects.</p>
<p>Wharton is undoubtedly the best business school in the country, but Ross is <em>RIGHT</em> behind it in the rankings. I have to agree with asian<em>evil</em>dictator too, on most of his/her points. While the campus itself is pretty and such, the minute you step off Penn grounds you're in the middle of the ghetto.</p>
<p>chanman, study the lecture outlines and do the homework when assigned, even though they are graded for credit only. When exam time comes, take the practice exam multiple times. That's really it for doing well in 271.</p>