Rumor at Haas

<p>Is it true that the grading scale will be changing for all Haas core classes? Alan Ross, Professor for UGBA 107 announced that there will be a suggested curve with 5% A's, 10% A-, somewhere around 75% B's and then 10% C or lower. I heard it from two friends. Has anyone else heard this and will it actually happen? I don't see why the school should do something like this.. it only makes it more competitive and would stress students a lot more.</p>

<p>Yep. This was announced in UGBA 107 this afternoon.</p>

<p>.....and The University takes another step forward in its mission to force-pump out the hardest working through Darwinian academics.</p>

<p>GO BEARS WOOOOOOOOOOOO</p>

<p>The scale is a suggested scale for core courses. I know some professors will definitely not change their prior grading habits like Marschak (the department's old man).</p>

<p>Ouch, that kind of hurts, but at least a B will be easier to get =/</p>

<p>the annoying things is that recruiters will see lower grades coming out of Haas than previous years and think its the student! I really want to know what the motivation for this was and why it was never mentioned to the students.</p>

<p>hmm...
i think the trojans really have good team spirit and alumni network,
won't this new grading scale just make people screw each other rather than work together? its not like haas students were like super getting along in the first place >_> no wut i mean?
just my 2c tho.</p>

<p>.....What the hell? Why on earth did you even bring up those semi-legally retarded $C scumbags?</p>

<p>and Haas students aren't really competitive, at least not on the big picture - I'd argue that MCB/any premeds are FAR more competitive.</p>

<p>The problem is twofold: our GPAs will "gap" and we will be less competitive against Ivies.</p>

<p>The same people who would have gotten a 3.7 under the old system might well end up with a 3.1 with the new curve. Recruiters will see the next coupla years of Haas students as somehow inferior, I fear.</p>

<p>Next, GPA inflation occurs because its somewhat useful. Its a standardized metric. With Ivies boasting >50% As sometimes, and offering 4.3s to A+s, Haas GPAs will seem less impressive by comparison.</p>

<p>does this apply to the prerequisite UGBA 10 as well?? Omg is this their way of discouraging people from applying D:</p>

<p>This curve is only for Upper Division Core courses so it will not affect UGBA 10. Its a shock to those students who recently got accepted and are told they are walking into a new curve that they were never warned about.. apparently the professors didn't even know about it.</p>

<p>ugh maybe i shouldve just gone to sc... what the hell...</p>

<p>there’s something called tenure and professors saying i don’t give a s h i t about whatever i’m suppose to do, so give me them A+'s</p>

<p>AHAHAHAHA, sucks for the incoming classes… </p>

<p>Anyways, for those of you concerned about not as many people getting A’s and losing competitiveness, I doubt all professors will follow such a curve. Secondly, the main purpose of the grading curve is to help recruiters differentiate between the average and the best students there. If strictly implemented, recruiters will understand that it’s much tougher to get an A in business classes and value students with high business GPAs more.</p>

<p>As a senior bus. major, I definitely think too many people at Haas get A’s, hence the reputation that Haas classes are much easier than say econ classes. For example in 102a financial accounting, 50%+ of the class gets an A, so what’s the difference if both average students and great students get the same grade? There’s no incentive to go above and beyond your class work and truly learn what you’re studying, instead everyone does the bare minimum.</p>

<p>I think it’s fantastic that they are finally putting in a stricter policy and for those incoming students who don’t like it, would you really drop the business major? If you can’t cut it than maybe it’s not for you.</p>

<p>Just FYI, UGBA 10 is 30% As, not 25%.</p>

<p>The law school follows similar grading system. I think I would prefer such kind of grading system if I were a Haas student, except that I would suggest that +A = top 5%, A = top 15%, -A = top 20%, +B = top 30%, B = top 40%. Or, something like that.</p>

<p>UGBA is strictly 25% As… they literally RANK you… like… you get your # rank. And then top 25% get some sort of A…</p>

<p>If you are looking at Pick-a-prof, they are wrong. I have taken that class before… and it’s 25% As…</p>

<p>25% As in UGBA 10:
[Welcome</a> to BA10 - Grading](<a href=“http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/robinson/ugba10/grading.html#final]Welcome”>http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/robinson/ugba10/grading.html#final)</p>

<p>^ That looks okay. But I’d probably readjust the As so that the total As awarded would be 30% or 35%.</p>

<p>1 year later: has the change been implemented?</p>