<p>In a junior in high school (just completed sophomore year) and I'm interested in running XC and track in college. (Getting a scholarship would be nice since I'm tight on money.) What is it like? How would my life be different than normal college students? Could I still party and have "the college experience" and still run?</p>
<p>Well, to begin with you will probably be expected to do at least the double the weekly mileage you did in high school. How are your times looking? Are your performances at or approaching college-level times?</p>
<p>As for partying, you will probably need to keep that at a minimum, especially if you are a scholarship athlete. Hard partying is not conducive to good athletic performance in any sport, especially one requiring the ability, training loads, and commitment of track and XC.</p>
<p>One thing you should know is that the NCAA does not allow schools to offer very many track scholarships. I believe it was about twelve and a half the last time I looked. It’s tough for a coach to put together a competitive track team on so few scholarships. These limits force the coaches to spread one scholarship across several athletes. So unless you are a star who can contribute in several events, you will likely get only a partial scholarship at best.</p>
<p>my brother runs for Cal Poly, and first off it’s a lot of work, a lot of work.</p>
<p>you probably need times of 4:15/1:55 (to walk on, not for scholarship) for most D1 schools, for schools like Oregon/Wisco etc., you need times closer to 4:08 and 1:53 (to walk on)… It depends greatly on how good the school is though, there is a thread on dyestat about walk-on standards of most colleges, you’ll find that the really good ones will cut 1:55 kids without hesitations. but there are also a lot of crappy d1/d2 colleges, a kid in our county got a bug chunk of money for running a 4:31, but he is going to a relatively no name school. </p>
<p>also, full scholarships are rare, expect getting partial if anything.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.talk.dyestat.com/showthread.php?t=82628[/url]”>http://www.talk.dyestat.com/showthread.php?t=82628</a> </p>
<p>here is the thread </p>
<p>It’s really competitive, and you definitely would have to go to bed a lot earlier most nights, probably not get wasted, etc.</p>
<p>I had a cousin who ran cross country on a scholarship. His schedule involved running early ams. Pool time in the afternoon and running in the evenings. I suspect he had little time for anything besides classes and XC.</p>
<p>A young man in our community is running for an OVC school in the fall. They just sent him his summer training schedule.</p>
<p>OK sanningen that’s absolutely ridiculous to me. How the heck am I supposed to get that fast >_> That would mean I would have to make state on my varsity team this year and such.</p>
<p>My times:
800m = 2:41
1600m = 5:51
5K = 21:27</p>
<p>Shoot me instead.</p>
<p>Crest1- Are you a female? Otherwise, you might want to do some road racing or club track. The running recruits at the more selective academic schools (Ivy, Williams, etc) had times of sub 4:25, sub 2:00, sub 16 (5K). There are exceptions, of course.</p>
<p>I’m male and I run cross country and track for my high school.</p>
<p>Well, if you still think you want to compete in college, try to build your mileage this summer. You should be running summer track or at least training under a coach. See how your junior year times are. It is not unusual for young runners to improve dramatically.</p>
<p>You can’t run competitively in college with times like that. Sorryto shoot down your dream, but our XC/Distance Track team has 60 kids, and you would be either the slowest person or close to it. For example, you essentially have to be All-American in order to be on the Stanford team, and state champ (in a good state) to walk on. However, I think MIT will take 17:30 guys for the 5k, but not recruited.</p>
<p>However, training can help a lot. I’ve seen it happen to my friend, who runs a 4:49 now, from what was a 5:40 his freshman year.</p>
<p>To all that know: What are the standards for Ivy League schools in track? I’m a junior and I run 1:57 and 4:25 in the 800m and 1600m respectively.</p>
<p>We just started conditioning yesterday and I ran hard before that because I want to improve. I expect to go from 21:27 to break 19:30.</p>
<p>State champion? So I’m assuming that every year only about 50-100 men join NCAA cross country and track as a freshmen. That’s not even funny.</p>
<p>Also I’m interested in Division I schools if anyone wants to tell me how good/bad they are for running. (My dream college = Penn State)</p>
<p>Well, there are a lot of state champs. There are three “distance” events, plus all of the divisions.That’s mostly just for Stanford and other top tier D1 programs anyways. However, there are definitely some state champs not fast enough (in lower divisions), or guys that aren’t champ that could make it.</p>
<p>Ive Been wondering the same question myself Crest1. I am a to-be senior in High school and I consider myself pretty good at running. I thought that i might want to try to run in college to get into a better school Anybody know if times like
800M- 2:04
4:33- Mile
9:47- 2 mile
3 mile/XC- 15:52</p>
<p>could help me anywhere?</p>
<p>haha- You should start contacting coaches. There are a number of Ivy schools that will be interested in you. You may not interest Dartmouth (he will respond and keep in contact, but unless you improve a lot you won’t get a “tip”) or Princeton (he is getting really fast kids these days), but your times are excellent for a junior.</p>
<p>illini- Not bad at all. I would contact some coaches. Top running schools aren’t going to be interested, but there are many who will be. Take a look at the websites for the teams and see what the distance and middle distance runners did as freshman AND in high school (it usually will say in their bios or else you can google them).</p>
<p>you guys might want to check this out …<br>
[Men’s</a> Track Recruiting Guidelines](<a href=“http://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting-tools/track/mens-track-recruiting-guidelines]Men’s”>http://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting-tools/track/mens-track-recruiting-guidelines)</p>
<p>Haha and illiniPride you’re both in the hunt to get recruited at atleast the DIII level and to possible walk-on at some DI schools.</p>
<p>To the OP … we really do not have a lof info on how much you have run up to now so hopefully your senior year will go well and you’ll improve quite a bit. The state champ comment earlier was accurate to be in the hunt to be offered a DI scholarship … a recruit needs to be top 100 or so nationally to get scholarship money … that said some DI schools except walk-ons with much more typical HS times … and DIII programs run the gamit from teams that could compete with some DI programs to teams that would lose to some HS teams so the openings are MUCH more accessible at DIII; not necassarily as a recruit but certainly as a walk-on</p>
<p>4 YEARS VARSITY? YOU ARE KIDDING. Only like 2 people at my school have been varsity for 4 years and we won state XC in 2008. So could I ever run for a DI school? Other than that… reality lied to me. Somebody messed up there.</p>
<p>The thing about running is that times are times. It is very easy to see where you stand. Go to dyestat.com<br>
I am pretty familiar with track/CC recruiting- especially at the Ivy and selective D3 academic schools. If any of you are interested in UChicago, they have a good program (as does WashU) and with the times reported by haha and illini there would likely be a tip if you are in the academic range for the school.</p>
<p>With a 21 min 5K, there’s no way u’d be able to run D1. But alot of small D3 schools make ZERO cuts–shoot the coach an email and ask if there are tryouts, and if so, what the standards normally are. Thats basically the key to anyone, no matter what their ability level, to get information on the team/scholarships.</p>
<p>Also–even though the schools may only offer a specific number of XC/track scholarships there are always ways of bending the rules. Even though Richmond is D1, they dont offer XC scholarships. A good friend of mine got $30,000 in “financial aid” this year even though his EFC was like 50,000. Basically, if the coach wants you, you’ll be able to get money one way or another.</p>
<p>here are the walk-on standards for some ivys.</p>
<p>For Cornell… pretty much takes anyone, 17 minutes=ish</p>
<p>Dartmouth walk on is roughly 9:30 3200</p>
<p>yale will take 4:4x for the mile. Penn doesn’t really cut too much</p>
<p>Harvard is roughly 9:40 (but if you’re slower and come to preseason in shape you’re fine). </p>
<p>Princeton is 15:40 track 5k.</p>
<p>(im getting this all from that thread)</p>
<p>but just email coaches you want to know about and they’ll tell you… make sure to do it summer between junior and senior year</p>
<p>and if you want to see if you can get a scholarship… see if you can earn any point in the school you wants conference meet… if you can, than you will most likely get a scholarship…</p>
<p>Ivies don’t have scholarships…</p>
<p>Well I’m not really interested in Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>My list:
Penn State #1
Toledo #3
Xavier (probably not)
UTexas (used to be a dream school but they only care about people in their state… less than 5% OOS)
Purdue #2</p>
<p>Well the reason why I wanted a scholarship is because I’m broke. I’m entering my junior year of high school with absolutely zero money saved up while the average person in my rich school district has like $5K+ (I hope I don’t sound greedy… but I do love running! It’s fun.) And I’m sure you can tell what I like with the Big 10 schools (I DON’T PARTY.) <— You guys kinda can’t really understand why I have no money saved up haha it’s just weird.</p>
<p>But yeah this is kinda biased right now so when I’m done with my XC season than I’ll evaluate what I can and can’t do.</p>