Running XC and track in College

<p>Big 10 schools are good, and relatively cheap if you’re instate. Also, you won’t be able to walk on for them. When I was a freshman, the fastest kid in our conference, a 15:10/9:01/4:15 guy ended walking on to Michigan. No money. So yeah, they won’t give you money for CC. Have fun with it though! Don’t use money as the only motivation.</p>

<p>You guys might also look into running camps. There is one at Dartmouth (cool, New Hampshire) in August that my kids have attended. Camps are a good way to look at colleges and see what schools are looking for. They also help cross country runners get in top shape for the season and can correct form issues.</p>

<p>Penn State has one too: <a href=“http://www.outreach.psu.edu/psu-sport-camps/track/[/url]”>http://www.outreach.psu.edu/psu-sport-camps/track/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If they don’t give away money, then how do they get runners?</p>

<p>They do give away money. There just isn’t a lot to go around. You’d be surprised at how many very, very fast people there are.</p>

<p>The Ivy League and D3 schools do NOT give athletic scholarships. Most of the Patriot League schools also do not. They get runners who want to attend these top academic schools and can use their running to help gain admission. These runners also love their sport and want to compete in college. Runners run.</p>

<p>hmm i have the same question as a couple people here did. my “dream school” would be university of michigan since i want to be a poly-sci major and i would love to go to such a good school for said major. here are my times
400:52
800:1:56
5k:16:00
my premier/favorite event i would say would be the 800 by far. this was my first year of track and xc so i think this year i could probably drop my times even more. do i have a shot?</p>

<p>ALSO i know i haven’t been “four years of varsity” but that’s cuz i never even knew about track and i got cut from football and the track coach comes up to me and tells me to come by sometime i do i run like a 5:10 mile my first time without like any training whatsoever so i did track. like i know i have the talent just not the “four years”. will me not having those “four years” make me ineligible for a D1 school? because i technically made state i just didn’t get to compete because i sprained my ankle a week before the meet. thanks!</p>

<p>Crest1, have other athletes from your school gone to college for running?
Use them as examples for where you’re trying to go and their level of success.</p>

<p>Your first year? Wow. Are you a junior right now? You might have a shot if you can to to ~1:54/50. Michigan really likes pure leg speed from what I’ve heard.</p>

<p>Crest1-im sorry but im pretty sure u couldnt run a D1 track. its very hard to get recruited from what i have heard. a couple of my friends ran D2 track, and one started running xc. he was a 16:48 (but usually over 17:00) and he barely was on the xc team. he was probably only on it because to keep training for track, but he was one of the better freshmen for track i think. another friend who is running D2, but was recruited for some a very good D3 program, ran 1:57 800m and 50 400m. ur best bet is walking on to a d3 team. i have seen college kids run 2:15 though, and i think it was a NAIA or D3 school.</p>

<p>yup my first year. i was “too small” for football so i tried xc and then track. yeah i really think i can cuz for xc i didn’t do any summer training (i heard that really helps so i am this summer) and i was somehow able to hit a 16:00. same with track i did basketball instead of doing pre-season training and still managed to get those times, and ive realized i actually have some talent at running so i plan on doing pre-season for track as soon as xc ends and i think i can easily get in taht 1:50-54 range. so even though i haven’t had “four years of varsity” can i still go to a D1 school?</p>

<p>This same thing happened to a kid I know. He didn’t run until his junior year, and by his senior year he was running 1:53. Michigan said they would take him and let him run if he applied as a transfer. You’re in an even better spot because he didn’t do XC until his senior year. If you can get to 15:30 this year, go talk to the coach. I honestly don’t know for sure, but I think they would at least be interested.</p>

<p>im pretty sure i can hit 15:00 or less since im training over the summer and taking xc as a sport seriously cuz last season i pretty much half-assed everything. the only thing is that it seems ridiculous that i would have to transfer cuz i checked their stats and me and that kid you mentioned both run faster than their fastest runners. im pretty sure if michigan won’t take me another school will wise up and take me so im not worried about not going to a good college but i really would like to go to michigan cuz of their poly-sci department.</p>

<p>I doubt that you will be running 15:00 for 5K cross country, but if you do, wonderful! Michigan is one of the top running schools in the country. If you want to run for them, you better plan on being a Footlocker finalist. Running varsity for 4 years has nothing to do with recruiting. It’s your times and what the coach thinks of your mileage that generated those times. Some coaches want high schoolers who have done and are used to high mileage. Other coaches look at the times and if the mileage is low, they see room for improvement. Faster times don’t automatically come from high mileage.</p>

<p>So only DI schools give out money? :(</p>

<p>If I can’t get any money from XC/track then I’ll just have to do good in school. I’m taking AP Chem and then senior year I’ll take AP Calc BC, AP Spanish, and AP Physics :o :slight_smile: If I don’t get any money, then by the time I’m out of college, I’ll have like $100K in debt (thanks Penn State, Texas, Purdue for being greedy)</p>

<p>D2 offers scholarships, but your times aren’t good enough at this point.</p>

<p>^^Michigan didn’t give money to a footlocker finalist from my conference.</p>

<p>Here are some cross country times for the different divisions so you can see how you compare:</p>

<p>[How</a> to Get Recruited for College Cross Country - Scholarships | NCSA](<a href=“http://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting-tools/cross-country/mens-cross-country-recruiting-guidelines]How”>http://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting-tools/cross-country/mens-cross-country-recruiting-guidelines)</p>

<p>And if your high school is in Ohio, surely you know about the Tiffin Carnival. Here are the Division IA times:</p>

<p>[Ohio</a> Runners - Tiffin Cross Country Carnival- HS Boys Div 1 Varsity-A](<a href=“http://oh.milesplit.us/meets/48269/results/98096]Ohio”>http://oh.milesplit.us/meets/48269/results/98096)</p>

<p>Crest,
Many smaller Division 3 schools don’t give out money for athletic scholarships but they do give various scholarships for what a student will bring to the campus. If you significantly improve your times, your interest in running in college could have a college coach put your name on the list he may give to admissions (generally it doesn’t ensure admission, it just adds a few brownie points to your application) and sometimes the school will award such a student various scholarships --not labelled athletic scholarships although it is clear that your are expected to continue your athletic endeavors. There are similar scenarios for students who engage in activities like theater, music and school newspapers. The reason for this is that the schools want to ensure a rich and diverse campus life experience for all students on campus. However, the scholarships are not huge. But every penny helps.
I noticed you are from Ohio. If you would consider some smaller schools, check out Wittenberg, Marietta and Ohio Northern to see if they offer anything you might be interested in. Also maybe Washington and Jefferson in Pennsylvania might be interesting to you.</p>

<p>Another thing…have you checked the athletic websites of the schools you are interested in to see the times that their atheltes run? This would let you see where your times would make you a legitimate candidate of interest to a coach (and serve as motivation).</p>