<p>well, i just wanted to know your opinions about this..I've heard many times as Rutgers being referred to as a public ivy and a really great school. what do you all think about this? is it just in NJ that Rutgers isn't considered great?</p>
<p>UVA, UNC, William & Mary, Michigan, Berkeley are the public universities that come to mind when I think of public ivies.</p>
<p>its a jersey dream =P</p>
<p>Well it is 46th ranked academically in the world.</p>
<p>But to New Jerseyans, it's THE college. :)</p>
<p>They had so much potential...but they just had to turn down that ivy league invitation...sigh...</p>
<p>It is far from a public ivy.</p>
<p>This is so ridiculous. I'm tired of hearing any arbitrary state-sponsored universities calling themselves public ivys. Now it basically means nothing.</p>
<p>it is not a public ivy. outside of NJ and the atlantic seaboard, most people are not even aware of this school to be honest.</p>
<p>Not even close.</p>
<p>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey is a leading national research university and is unique as the only university in the nation that is a colonial chartered college (1766), a land-grant institution (1864), and a state university (1945/1956).[24] Rutgers is accredited by the Commission on Higher Education of the Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools (1921), and in 1989, became a member of the Association of American Universities, an organization comprised of the 62 leading research universities in North America.[25] In their book, The Public Ivies: America's Flagship Public Universities, Howard and Matthew W. Greene list Rutgers University as a "Public Ivy", a selection of public universities at which they assert a student can receive an Ivy League education at a fraction of the price.[26]</p>
<p>Rutgers University was ranked 43rd worldwide and 35th within the United States in the 2005 Academic Ranking of World Universities by the Institute of Higher Education at Shanghai Jiao Tong University.[27] According to the Washington Monthly's 2006 rankings, Rutgers ranks 53rd in the United States.[28] The Top American Research Universities an annual statistical report by The Center at the University of Florida ranks Rutgers 39th.[29] In the 2006 U.S. News & World Report ranking of American national universities, Rutgers is ranked as the third best public university in the Northeastern United States and 60th in the ranking's "National Universities" category.[30]</p>
<p>Many Rutgers departments are nationally and internationally recognized for important scholarly contributions and the quality of education received by students at undergraduate and graduate levels. Eleven of Rutgers' graduate departments are ranked by the National Research Council in the top 25 among all universities: Philosophy (2nd), Geography (13th), Statistics (17th), English (17th), Mathematics (19th), Art History (20th), Physics (20th), History (20th) Comparative Literature (22nd), French (22nd), and Materials Science Engineering (25th).[31][32][33][34][35]The Rutgers Business School is ranked 39th in the Wall Street Journal's Regional Ranking of Top Business Schools.[36] The Philosophy Department ranked first in 2002–04 tied with New York University and Princeton University, and second in 2004–06 (NYU was first, Princeton 3rd, Oxford 4th) in the Philosophical Gourmet's biennial report on Philosophy programs in the English-speaking world.[37][38] According to U.S. News & World Report, in the top 25 among all universities: Library Science (6th), Drama/Theater (12th), Mathematics (16th), English (18th), History (19th, with the subspecialty of African-American History ranked 4th and Women’s History ranked 1st), Applied Mathematics (21st) and Physics (24th).[19] Also in the 2006 U.S. News & World Report ranking of Computer Science Ph.D. programs, Rutgers was ranked 29th.[39]</p>
<p>-Wikipedia.</p>
<p>:p hey if wikipedia says it, it must be true.</p>
<p>I dont think it is</p>
<p>The most commonly listed public ivies are-
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Indiana-Bloomington
Michigan-Ann Arbor
UVA
UNC
Illinois
William and Mary</p>
<p>some variations include rutgers, but not many, and i do not think that they are of the same academic calibur as these schools</p>
<p>if you look at Michigan, their lowest stat ranking for any department is 17th in the nation
Berkeley is 18
the rest are around there too.
and you can only be as strong as your weakest link</p>
<p>Rutgers has its issues but it is the best option without a doubt for kids in Jersey besides Princeton. You have major companies coming on campus such as Goldman Sachs, UBS, Bear Stearns ect. (business) and other top one hundred companies. Rutgers maybe not up to the standards UCLA or UMich but it has its perks. You can find a good paying job with a degree from Rutgers if you take advantage of the services it has to offer. Is it the best no, is it the worst - far from it and this school gets an A in my book. </p>
<p>Also you got the football team making national news and we are going all the way in 2007 baby!!!!!!</p>
<p>Rutgers is not to difficult to get into, so a lot of people consider Rutgers to be their safety school. This doesn't mean it's not a great school, however. If you have good SAT scores, the honors program is probably something you will want to look into. Rutgers also has a good pharmacy program (Ernest Mario or something) that is like 7 years, and if you get in there, that would be awesome.</p>
<p>All I know about Rutgers is that its football team pulled off a miraculous turnaround this year.</p>
<p>here's my one cent: my grandmother attended rutgers and majored in art history. she's one classy, educated, and cultured world traveler who could have attended princeton if her heart desired. rutgers turned down the ivy league's invitation. just a thought, but what does that say about the prestige on the ivy league? surely any prestigious club who extended offers of admission wouldn't get any cold shoulders?</p>
<p>If Rutgers didn't turn down the Ivy league invitation, they could have attracted many more brighter students then the in-state, lazy, uncaring students they mainly attract now. Most of my classmates say -- "w/e who cares? I'll just go to Rutgers" and they don't care about school. </p>
<p>Sure, it is also a cheap alternative to poor students who can't afford private institutions, and are still looking for a decent education, but Rutgers is hardly comparable to UC Berkeley, U-Mich, UVA, UNC, and others. </p>
<p>The big difference is, that other schools have MORE students that will try to make something of themselves in life. You won't find as many in Rutgers.</p>
<p>I'm not saying your grandmother was like these other kids who went to Rutgers just because she attended the same school -- the school shouldn't define you. She became successful because she had the drive within her and was okay with Rutgers. Kudos to her.</p>
<p>Rutgers is a seriously under-rated school in state. That said, there are a lot of bs programs there. Rutgers is what you make it, the new SAS has some programs that a caveman could get an A in and others that would give Einstein a run for his money. If your looking to get the "public ivy" reputation out of Rutgers, go to one of their professional programs, if you can get in. The pharm. school is THE hardest school in the state to get into, surpassing Princeton's record settingly low admissions rate and if a student gets less than a 2.8 for a semester they are removed from the program. the engineering school has about a 40% admissions rate and looks to fail half the class their first year. Outside of NJ Rutgers has a great name. I just turned down a job offer from the RNC and the director doing the hiring in Washington DC had a lot of respect for RU and the quality of students who come from the University. Out of staters respect RU because they don't get in, only 10% of RU is out of state. I went to an affair out in CA and they compared RU to Harvard on the academic level. Is it a "public ivy", im not sure, but it has some of the best programs in the world in math and the physical sciences. As a freshman, my calc professor had a Fields Medal. </p>
<p>Like any college Rutgers is what you make it. People in NJ hate it because everyone goes there, but does everyone get involved or go to the professional programs? If you go to one of the professional schools and actually graduate, or do an SAS program and are involved in something, a Rutgers degree will be treated as any other ivy degree.</p>
<p>My advice, if your looking for a great school at a cheap price go to Rutgers. Its unfortunate how little NJers look down on the 8th oldest college in the Americas.</p>
<p>The people who look down on it usually don't get accepted there.</p>
<p>It sad, but sometimes true. A lot of students underestimate Rutgers, and consider it a low-tier college or a safety school. Many kids in my school consider U Del, and Penn State better state schools. Many of these kids get rejected from both U Del and Rutgers (Not so much a safety school now eh?) IMO, Rutgers is better than U Del, and equal, if not better, than Penn State. Rutgers offers the best price (For NJ students), and offers education that is 2nd in NJ to Princeton. </p>
<p>I'm applying to RU-New Brunswick next year, and I'll be ecstatic if I do get accepted there. I gotta admit though, it would be cool if Rutgers was somehow invited to the Ivy-League again and accepted the invitation. I could say "I attend an Ivy-League" (I got in a lot easier and cheaper than you people at Yale, Princeton, and Harvard too! ) and Rutgers would definitely build a strong reputation to NJ students and many other students across the nation. Ahhh....If only...if only...</p>
<p>Like I said earlier, Rutgers is very underrated, and somewhat of a joke to many NJ students. It quite foolish for many to even consider the most remote, or unknown schools better than Rutgers. Bah, some NJ students are probably even willing to persuade others that community college is better than Rutgers. It's a stubborn mentality, but it will never go away!</p>
<p>Take a look at this link</p>
<p>Talk:Rutgers</a> University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>It's Rutgers. It is not hard to get accepted. It is the safety school for anyone with half a brain. I think this thread was probably meant as a joke. Oh yeah, and Indiana--Bloomington is definitely not thought of when people mention public ivy. I mean, Rutgers is better than IU, which should tell you a lot. You Jersey kids keep living that dream, while the smart ones will leave the state for school.</p>
<p>Although Rutgers is a great school, I don't think it can be considered a public ivy up there with Berkeley, Michigan, UNC, UVA etc. those schools are just on a level above Rutgers</p>