<p>I believe Wei is being charged because she allowed the other suspect to use her computer to actually do the crime.</p>
<p>I don’t see what race has to do here, so put that card back in your pocket.</p>
<p>If you read my posts, you can clearly see that I think that a crime was committed here, but this is not a hate crime. Remember, there has to be some criminal intent, which there wasn’t (besides from what I’ve already explained regarding the invasion of privacy). This, in its most simple terms was a prank gone very wrong.</p>
<p>the other sad part of this story is, dharun’s and molly’s parents probably thought they were goody two-shoed children who would never commit this kind of crime. most, if not all, indian parents think that of their children. not too sure about asian parents though. (not that this is more important than the death, just putting this out there )</p>
<p>my friend knows, or should i say knew, dharun. my friend also knows someone who was good friends with tyler. so sad, especially at a very diverse place like rutgers</p>
<p>First off the actions of these two make me sick. That said, Rutgers has very specific code of conduct for students and these two violated many of them. they will be expelled no doubt, and rightfully so. They currently are “at home with their families” and definately are not on campus. Next, the prosecutor is looking at this as a bias crime and if so, they could get 5 years added on to any sentence due to the premise that he tweeted about his roommate being homosexual and that was part of the crime. They are looking at a maximum of 5 years for the misdermeanor of privacy violations. For the poster who said the student could film in His own room and not violate privacy, he could only film himself, not his roommate. This jerk agreed to leave the room so his roommate could have a guest over. If he was so opposed to the roommates choice of guests, he should never have agreed. isnt that what a good roommate does, ask. I think this is just a shame for all 3 kids involved. Who would have ever thought this would be a prank? I hope the prosecutor throws the book at them. And yes… I am a Rutgers alumni, but I think this could have happened at many schools. The roommate and his friend (not totally sure of her role) are to blame.</p>
<p>The Rutgers community mourns one of its own, Tyler Clemente, in a senseless tragedy. Let ignorance die with this generation. Teach your children not just tolerance, but compassion and respect for those who may differ from them. Please take a moment and think how you would feel if this were your child. Say a prayer for his family.</p>
<p>If they DO get away with it, is it naive of me to think that even though they could feel guilt, in a matter in months they could probably go on living their lives as normally as possible?</p>
<p>A few months pass, people forget, they go to other schools… although this has caused some media attention, I honestly don’t think there names will be known in every household, like Ted Bundy or another well known name. I can barely remember the boy’s name now.</p>
<p>Not trying to be insensitive, and I’m sure they’ll face consequences but…I don’t think it’s going to be as harsh as people are thinking. Once the media on it dies down, it will most likely be forgotten Which is awful, but, that’s my prediction.</p>
<p>I see people misspelling this kid’s name already… I think that is a sign that this incident is going to blow over very quickly…</p>
<p>I have no doubt that Clementi has been subject to ridicule long before he came to Rutgers. His roommate’s prank only exacerbated a poor situation.</p>
<p>@contra considering all the brouhaha they make about how you need to be careful since many employers search your name in Google now, I think this’ll haunt them for a while. Even more so if they ever apply for jobs that have background checks or security clearances.</p>
<p>^^ DC, they could always just change their names as far as the Google thing goes, but on the other things, I see your point. But still, I doubt it will have that much of a long term effect. I just don’t see it.</p>
<p>^ I don’t think so. I don’t think she is innocent. She made a dumb mistake being an accomplish. If she was innocent, she wouldn’t have allowed her friend to access the web cam from her computer. Or if she didn’t know what Ravi was planning to do on her computer, she would have stopped him from doing what he was doing. I’m sure she was right by him giggling.</p>
<p>I tried to feel sorry for her thinking that she was just unfortunate for being involved, but I just couldn’t. Yet again, I don’t know the whole story. I think most people don’t know the whole story except those three.</p>
<p>The two main things are recording someone’s sexual contact secretly and that the victim was a gay man, apparently.
If it wasn’t those , and even the man committed suicide, very few would give a damn about it at all.</p>
<p>Another thought:
i watched a youtube video the other day. a group of co-workers played a prank on another co-worker. they told her to play a game, and a few minutes later a scary face appears and she immediately flipped out. yes she took it as a joke. but what if she died from heart-attack? all the co-workers that are involved in the prank will be charge for murder. if the lady committed suicide, do we still blame the co-workers? it was on youtube, btw.</p>
<p>I agree that perhaps if he didn’t commit suicide less people would give a damn. The story probably would have remained local and not hit a national or international level as it has these past three days. </p>
<p>It’s unfortunate that someone has to take their own life for people to realize that invading people’s privacy and humiliating them can cause a lot of damage to the target. Especially when the incident hits a nerve of a problem among some young gay teens – being a target for humiliation and abuse because they are homosexual, having to hide yourself in fear of being criticized or disowned … Why shouldn’t people be outraged? Especially the gay community?</p>
<p>And I don’t know if I would compare this incident with the youtube video you are describing. Ravi and Wei humiliated this kid and invaded his personal state. It would be similar if the co-workers videotaped the woman using the bathroom or something and then publicly aired it to embarrass her.</p>
<p>And the reason why I don’t feel sorry for Wei either is because she was involved a second time with Ravi. The fact that they attempted (and failed due to Clementi noticing the light from the cam) the second time around showed that they were going to continue doing this. That’s a “considerate girl”?</p>
<h2>i watched a youtube video the other day… but what if she died from heart-attack? all the co-workers that are involved in the prank will be charge for murder. if the lady committed suicide, do we still blame the co-workers? it was on youtube, btw. *</h2>
<p>Would be unfortunate, no and no.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for you it’s not an analogous situation and making the comparison just makes you look silly and desperate . Please stop.</p>
<p>jwxie: I understand how hard it must be for you considering that you knew Wei. In reality, everyone is a victim here. Clementi was a victim. Ravi is a victim. Your friend is a victim. Everyone related or connected to these three are victims.</p>
<p>I’m sure Molly is a very bright girl considering she got into the pharmacy school. But fact of the matter is that she did something unthinkable. Even if Clementi didn’t take his life or was hiding in the closet (as claimed), what those two did in recording his sexual encounter was just wrong and disgusting. It is in no way amusing.</p>
<p>It was with the intention of harming him (humiliation is a way of harming, even if not physical). I’m sure they didn’t intend for the “prank” or whatever they considered it to result in such tragedy, but that is why people shouldn’t harass others. That’s why people shouldn’t bully or ridicule.</p>
<h2>i watched a youtube video the other day. a group of co-workers played a prank on another co-worker. they told her to play a game, and a few minutes later a scary face appears and she immediately flipped out. yes she took it as a joke. but what if she died from heart-attack? all the co-workers that are involved in the prank will be charge for murder. if the lady committed suicide, do we still blame the co-workers? it was on youtube, btw. ~ jwxie</h2>
<p>Well, that didn’t happen, did it?</p>
<p>Anyways, being videotaped in a public space is different from your own dwelling. In public you have no expectation of privacy (security cameras, for example), so the lady in the Youtube video didn’t have her privacy infringed.</p>
<p>Regardless, I doubt prosecutors will push for what you are describing and it’s unlikely they will face any charges related to the actual death, just the invasion of privacy.</p>
<p>You need to stop making up ridiculous arguments to defend your friends. They broke the law (unknowingly or not) and they will have to face some legal consequences.</p>
<p>Personally, I don’t blame the parties for the deceased death. It’s obvious he was an unstable person and it was his decision to jump off a bridge. However, they are responsible for the laws they broke, and because of the outcome they will probably have a stiffer punishment.</p>
<p>I hope colleges learn a good lesson from this incident and start being more considerate when pairing roommates. Personally, I wouldn’t live with a homosexual and I doubt a homosexual would want to live with me. They are asking for trouble when they push two polar opposite lifestyles together. </p>
<p>Whether Wie is a good person or not is irrelevant. More than likely she is, but “good people” still do bad things sometimes and should be held accountable. Same goes for the other kid involved in this.</p>
<h2>And the reason why I don’t feel sorry for Wei either is because she was involved a second time with Ravi. The fact that they attempted (and failed due to Clementi noticing the light from the cam) the second time around showed that they were going to continue doing this. That’s a “considerate girl”? ~ Mushabloomblue</h2>
<p>I wouldn’t be so quick to judge. Everyone has skeletons in there closet and usually the ones who judge the fastest are the ones with the most dirt in their past. </p>
<p>These two kids did something relatively minor, but resulted in major unanticipated consequences. Don’t think you are above making similiar mistakes.</p>
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Which is awful, but, that’s my prediction.</p>