<p>Thanks Cavalier for just proving once again what my daughter has always been saying about UVA students. They think they are the smartest and sooo above VT. And oh, sorry but my daughter had a 1430 on her SAT. So much for your own VT cliches.</p>
<p>Sorry Shoebox, but I have been following these UVA threads for a while and the arrogance is oozing all over. I don't get that feeling when I read the VT threads.</p>
<p>Let me say it again: you have a very limited, very provincial understanding of the world. There are at least two dozen other colleges as good or better than UVA, and UVA students are aware of it. Yes, UVA students go on to excellent graduate programs and yes, they are recruited by elite firms and yes, many of them were near the top of their class in HS, but you seem to confuse that with megalomania and arrogance. And your daughter is an outlier for VT if she scored a 1430 on the SAT.</p>
<p>Listen, you write and think like a teenager which leads me to believe you are a teenager. Take your misguided flame elsewhere and get a life.</p>
<p>Cav 302--you make me laugh!! Thanks for your wit and wisdom!</p>
<p>i know i'm not objective, but it is so clear as i read these threads that you guys all know how to write and think and debate and be your own person. you were all that way before UVA, but it got nurtured there. sorry for the conflicts, but you will all work it out. as a parent from the northeast, let me say that not all people know about UVA. this part of the country is sickeningly IVY OBSSESED! and yet, UVA IS ivy. for years we has complete strangers say, "how did your daughter get in to UVA, OOS???" so, yes, UVA IS a big deal and you should all be extremely proud for being a part of it. i'm going to stick my neck out a bit and say i think guillaume is way defensive. there was no reason for her to contribute in such an antagonistic way, based on the title of the thread...WHICH WE'VE ALL GOTTEN AWAY FROM! (YES, UVA IS SAFE!) the two schools are rivals and that's fine, but academically there's no contest. SO WHAT? why can't it be ok to be all in the VA State system, with UVA being the strongest academically overall? why must it always be a battle ? take care you guys.</p>
<p>UVA and VT really aren't rivals as they don't compete in more than a few areas. UVA dominates athletically and academically.</p>
<p>i know that, but they do have a competitive relationship, for whatever reason...maybe football? engineering?</p>
<p>Nah, real rivalries are like Harvard-Yale, Alabama-Auburn, Stanford-Berkeley, Michigan-OSU, Army-Navy...</p>
<p>cav~ i'm not sure where you're going with this. we all know what UVA is, and personally i think it beats many of the ivies. the other VA schools pale by comparison, but there's no need to rub that in for those who can't be in at UVA. makes the school seem elitest like (yawn) all the others...sick of naming them.( harvard, princeton,yale,dartmouth,upenn,duke,cornell,georgetown, brown,...)</p>
<p>Huh? I was just listing more legit rivalries...nothing about elitism. And for what it's worth, I don't view any of the schools you listed as "elitist". Almost all of what those kids earn is deserved and I have enough perspective to give credit where credit is due (unlike some people in this thread).</p>
<p>no, i think you were pi***d at the thought of a rivalry between VT and UVA. but i think i don't want to be yet another one in battle on this thread, which has lost its purpose. ha, all the fault of mamacass! :) we can agree to disagree on the ivy thing...the ivy league is grossly overrated and in many cases is based on inequities in the system. kudos to those who truly deserve the credit for being there.</p>
<p>i restrained myself from correcting someone else last time i was on here, just for you, vistany. and they really deserved it. it was right there staring at them and they just could NOT do it right. but i will stop there.</p>
<p>if anyone is taking my comments seriously...... then you should probably just stop, now.</p>
<p>i'm pretty sure i once replied to a chances thread that had some grammatical errors in it with something like, "you'll never get into uva if you can't even use such and such correctly in a sentence" lol.</p>
<p>if someone would just let me assemble a sticky thread with answers to questions that i know get asked all of the time, this wouldn't be a problem anymore.</p>
<p>OH also
i did a research paper in 12th grade on antisemitism, and guess how legacy practices really started?
yup, to keep out the jews.</p>
<p>just my random tidbit of the day.</p>
<p>happycollegemom, I wasn't really irritated by the idea, I just think that our "rivalry" is quite soft compared to others around the nation.</p>
<p>I'm a UVA grad and I've spent a lot of adult time in Charlottesville, too. I also have a friend on the faculty at UVA who insists he won't feel safe sending his daughters to UVA because of the crime. Charlottesville is a lovely city; the envy of many. But the general policies of the state of Virginia and the pro-developer and business policies of Albemarle County have caused unbridled growth and brought far too many new residents to the beautiful county from the west coast and the northeast. Along with this comes the typical crime and drugs that run a route down US29 from Washington, DC, as well as the gun trade along I-81 due to lax gun regulations in Virginia. It's still a better place to raise kids than most places I could think of, but it's changing fast, and not for the better. </p>
<p>That being said, I'd have been proud if either of my daughters had gone to UVA but I was more comfortable with D2 at William and Mary. She attended neither. Tech kills UVA in football. Check the history of the rivalry. UVA wins in other sports. UVA athletes have a much higher graduation rate than nearly any school with similar level athletics. It always makes me proud to see grads like Tiki Barber expressing themselves so articulately off the field. UVA athletes actually get a good education. That's not true everywhere else. No dog-killing comments from me. Tech is a great school as most of the nation knows now. William and Mary is a real jewel as state universities go, and a great asset for Virginia kids looking for a liberal arts education in a small school in a great city at in-state prices. I'll defend them all. Crime happens anywhere and Charlottesville is ripe because of a huge chasm between the wealthy and the rest. It's still a great place to go to school, to live, and to raise kids.</p>
<p>Proud Dad...yes! i totally forgot about W & M ! sorry!</p>
<p>VT is getting more and more outstanding students since UVA’s baffling admission policy waitlists people like our neighbor who was a valedictorian (now at VT) but accepts, for whatever reason, average students like some of my daughter’s classmates. And some people do reject UVA for VT (a friend’s son)
And yes, Cavalier has demonstrated once again for all to see his elitism and arrogance.</p>
<p>OMG Hazel, you really can't help yourself can you? You are dazed and confused. We don't want to hear about your heroic effects to restrain yourself from being rude and nitpicky, we are asking you to please stop doing it because it is off-putting to people who would like to have a conversation without being stunted by the rules of Hazelworld. You not the owner of this site and you are not the English Police.</p>
<p>Can you please please please understand that and control your acerbic tongue and endless desire to correct others? Pretty Please????</p>
<p>It's not so baffling. UVA looks at far more than just rank, standardized tests, or hollow accomplishments that pad a resume. In this they act much more like a private than a state U. That's what gives them such an interesting and diverse student body. Just ask Dean J. Compared to other state schools that don't even ask for a list of ECs, UVA has a pretty darn complex application. </p>
<p>Sure, you can stereotype UVA as "preppie" but you can do the same for Tech. Maybe even more-so. The "new" preppie is more about the trappings of preppieness anyway. The name brands from the outlet mall, etc. In the past Izod shirts, Levi cords, and Top-Sider mocs made their reputation on quality, comfort, and durability. Nowadays you just stamp "AF" or "Aeropostale" on the butt of anything made in China and call it "preppie". It's a shallow way to categorize kids or schools. Prep means kids come to school prepared for college and college-level work. UVA does a good job of choosing those who can do the work.</p>
<p>Not to mention some of the rejections/acceptances can be attributed to UVA's clearly elitist agenda of increasing diversity in its admissions, as opposed to Virginia Tech's clearly non-elitist lack of diversity in admissions whatsoever (as well as the lack of a legitimate application).</p>