San Diego State or UC Riverside

<p>Excluding College of Agriculture, Average gpa of students hovers around 3.9+
The average gpa is brought down by College of Agriculture.
Keep in mind, unlike UC's applicants are accepted by their particular major. As in, they are compared in their specific departments, for example I competed against other Electrical Engineering applicants, not the whole university.</p>

<p>My last paragraph meant, the majority of CP students.</p>

<p>Oh. By the way, some UC applicants are accepted by major, and some by college (for example, engineering).</p>

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Its very very reasonable to say that all UCs, their programs (except graduate), and student body, are inferior to Cal Poly with the exception of UCLA, UCSD, and Berkeley.

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<p>I just don't agree with this, with the large "very very," with the omission that there are important exception programs (SLO architecture is supposed to be better than any UC architecture program, for instance, at least for undergrad), that SLO doesn't have some grad programs that are better than some UC programs, at least within specialty programs, that the mid-tier UCs seem a lot like Cal poly with regard to student quality.</p>

<p>By the way Grateful_Dead.....You said that the SDSU business school is among the top in the nation. well, its not even in the top 50 according to US News.</p>

<p>i'm doing international business which is ranked 7 in the nation, do some more research</p>

<p>Thats not what you said in your last post. You said the business school is ranked among the top in the ntaion, not just ONE of the sub-specialties. You do some research.</p>

<p>well maybe you shouldn't assume things, why do i have to be totally specific on what major im doing, it's in the business category. it shows that you have nothing better to do then try to prove me wrong by doing pointless research just to try to make me feel bad.</p>

<p>Im not trying to make you feel bad at all. However, you are giving false info to prospective students and that may affect which school they decide to go to. That's unfair. Im not saying that there aren't some good programs in the business school, however, according to USNWR, SDSU is not in the top 50 B-schools.</p>

<p>its ranked like 60 according to US NEWS and has been rising every year and once they put in the new 10 million dollar business school in 07', look for it to be one of the TOP. </p>

<p>Take note that the US News shouldn't determine what is the top. </p>

<p>Nasdaq ranked SDSU's business school in the top 25 for excellence. Truthfully I would hold more validity with Nasdaq then the US NEWS.</p>

<p>Average starting salaries with SDSU students are higher than a few of the top 50 schools, and I think salaries should be one of the main ways to guage the quality of a business program. </p>

<p>So please do, speak, on how SDSU is not considered a top business school in the nation?</p>

<p>If a student is considering business as a major, i hope that they wouldn't be dumb enough to base all their information and ultimately their decision off of an internet discussion site. They would look into both schools and study what they have to offer extensively (and hopefully visit the campus and talk to students), seeing which school will fit them best. So don't say that someone will base their decision on what one person says on some internet site, i dont think that anyone here is that stupid</p>

<p>I NEVER said that they would be "dumb enough to base all their information and ultimately their decision off an internet discussion site." I will repeat, Im not trying to make you feel bad at all. However, you are giving false info to prospective students and that may affect which school they decide to go to. That's unfair. Im not saying that there aren't some good programs in the business school, however, according to USNWR, SDSU is not in the top 50 B-schools.</p>

<p>It may AFFECT, NOT decide, where they choose to go to school.</p>

<p>Why is everything based off of US News Report. That report is bias in many ways. Do they visit every school and sit in classes and lectures to determine the quality of business programs? I dont think so. And like savedbythebell said san diego is ranked very high by other college rankings. US News Report shouldnt be seen as the all knowing college ranking guide.</p>

<p>Why are you putting words into my mouth?? AGAIN, i NEVER said that "everything was based off of US News Report." However, USNWR could potentially play a factor in where someone choses to go to school. Also, i understand your claim that USNWR "shouldnt be seen as the allknowing college ranking guide," however, if a school is not ranked in the top 50 B-schools of a reputable and trusted ranking system, what does that tell you? I can understand if SDSU was ranked say #15 and you thought they should have ranked them #10, however if a school doesn't even appear in the rankings, its probably not that great of a school. Face it, its not that USNWR has some comspiracy against SDSU, its more likely that they're just not that great of a school.</p>

<p>By the way, i would love to hear why you think USNWR is "biased in many ways."</p>

<p>Its APPEARS in the rankings as #60. You just took an imaginary number of 50 and said if it doesn't fall within that number it can't be a good business school. In all honesty do you really think there is that much difference from #25 to #50, probably not. If you're not within the top 15, I think the prestige of your degree isn't all that important, for instance I think a degree from U of A and SDSU will hold the same clout and U of A's business school is in the top 25. AB_MED how does US News do the Business rankings? They base it on a number of factors, but unfortunately SALARY isn't even one of those factories, how reputable can a business ranking be if salary isn't included in the ranking? Salaries are the bottom line and very important in guaging the quality of a business schools graduates in my honest opinion. Let's be real here, SDSU has a good business school and is pretty damn well endowed. SDSU I think in the ranking system by US NEWS is brought down, based on the fact it's a CSU and the rest of the programs aren't even within the top 100. In terms of Public schools, In the state of california, behind HAAS and UCLA, SDSU's business program is right there. California is a huge state and to say that SDSU is one of the top 3 or so public business programs in the state, would classify it as a pretty damn good business school IMO. I mean lets be honest here US news (which I don't agree with the ranking system) ranked the school 60 something. 60th place in the entire United States with over 50 states is very good. You could place SDSU is many states and it would be the best business program around. I'm glad I was not raised to be narrow minded and pretentious.</p>

<p>Actually, salary IS a factor in the ranking system. In fact, they show the average salary of each of the schools on the ranking. Just check out <a href="http://www.usnews.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.usnews.com&lt;/a> and it CLEARLY states that they use average salary as a criteria for ranking. </p>

<p>Also, if you can tell a prospective student that a #60 something ranking is good for a business school, then youve got low standards and you're giving bad advice/info to people. Even a 60 ranking for a undergrad college is pretty bad but for a b-school its even worse because there aren't even close to as many b-schools as colleges.</p>

<p>Also, 50 is not "an imaginary number." I have a copy of the USNWR and the magazine doesnt even show anything below #50. You would have to go to the website or something to see SDSU's ranking. </p>

<p>Yes, there is a HUGE difference betweeen a #25 and #50 school. As far as undergrad colleges go, UCLA is ranked #25 and University of Florida is ranked #50. Is there a big difference between the school? OH YEAH! In fact the average SAT is over 200 points higher at UCLA than at U of F. And the difference between a 25 and 50 b-school is only MORE pronounced in the b-school rankings because there are fewer of them. Its WAY easier to get into SDSU b-school than the #25 school and thats probably the biggest reason why its so low ranked.</p>

<p>To the OP, go to UCR....Its a better school and its ranked higher by almost all rankings, including USNWR!</p>

<p>I think that SDSU's business school is overall pretty good, and excells in some areas (such as networking in SD and international business). Certainly that it's one of the best business schools in California is significant (although I would imagine Cal Poly SLO's business schools is of similar or better quality- maybe I'm wrong). This conversation isn't going anywhere positive, guys.</p>

<p>in case you didnt notice the original poster decided to go to sdsu dude, and yes you are basing everything off us news so dont say you arent; i have also talked to many people in the business world of Orange County and Los Angeles (including my sister who is a graduate of marshall at usc) and most of them put SDSU on a higher pedistal for business then UCR, and who do you think is doing the hiring after college? UCR is a GREAT school dont get me wrong, but for business sdsu is better. And that is how I made my decision, off my specific major, not really the school as a whole.</p>

<p>All I have to say is that ab_med is an idiot and needs to keep his mouth shut because he keeps on contradicting himself and is very narrow minded and grateful dead should just stop talking. SDSU is a better school</p>

<p>Ok AB_Med, you said anything in the top 50 is a good business school is there that much difference between U Of Florida and San Diego State in terms of clout of the business degree, probably not. I like how you completely dismissed my U of A argument, I believe ASU is also in the top 50, but of course I don't subscribe to US News, nor will I ever. You also discount the fact that San Diego state probably has the third best public business school in the entire state of California. Since US News does use the salary statistics, can you please list what San Diego State's average salaries are and compare them to the rest of the top 50 (and don't pull something like just comparing Wharton to SDSU), please, if it's way off, then i'll shut my mouth and you were right I was wrong SDSU is a bad business program.</p>