Santa Clara vs Puget Sound

<p>My son has been accepted to both, his major in business. He is also a BIG track person and wants to run track while in college. My son did his reserach and feels that both Puget and Santa Clara are about equal in their undegrad business program - which i don't agree, i think Santa Clara is superior. My son's feeling is that given that both schools are equal, that he base his decision on track and it is there where he feels that Puget has a better program. So my job is to compare the two undergrad business program and school to see which is better................help</p>

<p>How is it he is still deciding? Wasn’t the response date last week on May 1st?</p>

<p>we accepted both</p>

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<p>The guidelines are VERY CLEAR. Students are to accept only ONE school. Your son runs the risk of being found out and losing admission to BOTH schools. No one likes to be gamed.</p>

<p>Having said all of that…your son should make the pick. He is the one attending college and that is the important component here. While he is enrolling as a business major, the reality is that many (if not most) students switch majors multiple times while undergrads. He should pick the school he wants to attend.</p>

<p>BTW…my daughter is a SCU grad and I’m a huge fan of the school. BUT really, if your son wants to go to Puget, let him.</p>

<p>“we accepted both.” Maybe he could be engaged to 2 women at the sametime some day too while he is trying to make up his mind.</p>

<p>This Puget Sound grad and parent of a triple waitlister wishes people would follow the rules on acceptance. Pick one school, send in one deposit. Be honest and fair to others.</p>

<p>B4 u all get bent out of shape, I said we accepted both to Cardinal - bcuz he/she did not offer any help or address my post so to move on I told him/ her we accepted both.
My son accepted Puget and was just informed that SCU - where he was waited listed, is able to offer him admission.</p>

<p>Thank U Thumper for the advice</p>

<p>Oldfort - really??? IF u have no advice, don’t waste my time and get a life</p>

<p>You didn’t say he was accepted off WL.</p>

<p>OP… addressing your question, Santa Clara is bigger, in a bigger urban environment, and has better weather for running (assuming track = running and not shot put) than UPS. Tacoma cannot compete for size or weather. However, if your S wants smaller in all categories to either make the track team or to have more personal contact with profs… then he should stay with UPS. The schools are pretty different, and cost different as well. </p>

<p>There are LOTS of differing definitions of “better” so your S has to go with best FOR HIM.</p>

<p>addressing people’s confusion and remarks on your posts… if you said one thing but mean another, then I don’t think you should be annoyed when people don’t understand. And many people who “have a life” would possibly be more likely to spend their time answering questions for someone who gives complete information and isn’t insulting. You might not expect too much more help. </p>

<p>In context, oldfort was right.</p>

<p>OP…now I’m a bit confused. If your son accepted the waitlist offer from SCU, he is required to IMMEDIATELY inform Puget that he has been accepted off of the waitlist elsewhere and will not be matriculating at Puget.</p>

<p>Your post in post number three implies he has accepted enrollment at both schools.</p>

<p>I agree with esobay re: the differences between the schools. And I still say…let your son choose.</p>

<p>I agree with thumper in all respects. Parents don’t need to do this research or micromanage their children’s choices. A student succeeds best at the school s/he wants to attend.</p>

<p>Neither of my kids picked the school that I thought was the most “perfect” in my estimation. Both were right for themselves and learned a lot and grew tremendously from their experiences.</p>

<p>Schools should be canvassed before application, and any school that accepts the student should be fair game, provided the financials are comparable.</p>

<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>

<p>As for the other issue of double deposits, no matter the circumstances, it’s a bad idea. However, you may not have had a chance to inform the first school until tomorrow. like to give folks the benefit of he doubt.</p>

<p>Just remember if Puget Sound is chosen and you accepted Santa Clara’s offer some kid who is desperate to get off the waitlist at Santa Clara is miserable when s/he doesn’t need to be.</p>

<p>It always kinda skeeves me out when parents refer to their child’s life as “our” or even “mine”. </p>

<p>The time for evaluation of criteria is before acceptances are received with the exception of financial aid offers.
I don’t know anything about SCU and little about UPS, but it sounds to me from reading other threads that the S prefers UPS. Unless SCU was the clear front runner before the acceptances were in & it didn’t seem likely to have waitlist movement, I don’t understand the second guessing.</p>

<p>I think SCU is D1 and UPS D3. If he wasn’t recruited by SCU will he still be able to be on their track team? Maybe he will have more opportunities to compete on a D3 team.</p>

<p>My only S was accepted to several great Calif schools (we live in Calif) and Univ Penn. I was able to go with him to Univ Penn and see the school. I am go glad I did…I would not be feeling good about sending him there without seeing what a great fit it was for HIM. I agree with the posters that say let him decide. If he gets there and it’s wrong, he can always transfer at a later time.</p>

<p>UPS is well regarded in the Pacific Northwest. Many students are passionate about the quality of the classes and the quality of the instructors. </p>

<p>Perhaps OP is more familiar with Santa Clara? </p>

<p>The student has to be committed and delighted about his choice for him to shine. If that is UPS, then that is the avenue that should be chosen. </p>

<p>So often, as a parent, it is easy to get caught up in the statistics (fees, % graduating, etc) whereas the student is going by the “feel” of the campus. The vibes are crucial and UPS is known as a happy place. I’d be completely comfortable with a student choosing UPS. It’s not cheap but it is a great choice.</p>

<p>Both are good Us & have much to commend them. I have a niece at UPS & my S seriously considered SCU. Some kids really find that participating actively in a sport is a great plus for their college experience while other kids drop out of their sport as it takes too much time & energy from academic & other pursuits.</p>

<p>It sounds like it’s really important for your S to make a list of pros & cons for each U to figure out which one he REALLY wants and then just make his choice & be happy! If SAD (seasonal affective disorder) might be an issue, UPS is much more overcast than SCU, but have heard most kids at both Us are quite happy! :)</p>

<p>Santa Clara is D1, UPS is D3. Huge difference in commitment level and talent/ability necessary to participate. If it comes down to track, should be a pretty easy decision based on son’s ability and commitment level, the two schools just are not comparable in track.</p>

<p>dwn2, I hope that you have visited UPS. Our daughter and I thought for SURE Seattle University (just down the road) was the perfect fit. I really thought we would be coming home with the decision done. Although the northwest is incredibly beautiful, the city lovely, and the college very well respected, she just couldn’t stand the sameness of the students and people. Everywhere she looked she saw…jeans and Northface jackets and straight unstyled hair. The Northwest has a very specific “vibe” and it was most definitely not “her place.”</p>

<p>Seattle U is Jesuit & attracts different students than UPS which is secular.
interesting what your daughter found important though :wink:
I agree that many wear fleece jackets, it is a pretty practical fabric in the weather- but I would disagree that SU suffers a lack of diversity in student body or in faculty.</p>

<p>Santa Clara. 'nough said.</p>