Sarah Palin - Stupidest VP decision ever?

<p>Nah seriously, on a couple other threads I feel Baelor's a bit too aggressive/passionate (chill, buddy ;) ), but this one...he hits it at home, to be honest. I'm agreeing with 99. <em>insert the pi digits here</em> % of the things he's said.</p>

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Since I've recently posted this another thread, I'll quote myself once again:</p>

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<p>So yeah. I've never been a fan of the potter books, really. But I wiki'd (LOL) Dolores real quick and I think I get you. I think.</p>

<p>"Nah seriously, on a couple other threads I feel Baelor's a bit too aggressive/passionate (chill, buddy )"</p>

<p>Oh, no doubt. :p But I'm surprised, because this has come up more than once. I suppose people think that my using caps means I'm angry or "passionate," as you say, but it's generally to draw attention. But it generally means I'm less than calm, to be sure.</p>

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<p>I am sad McCain is risking the countrys future to try to steal some Hillary votes and appease the Falwell/Limbaugh GOP. I guess if I run for mayor of my 25000 person town he will endorse me as qualified in 2012 to run for President.</p>

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I guess if I run for mayor of my 25000 person town he will endorse me as qualified in 2012 to run for President.

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<p>That is, if he's still alive by then. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Haha, on the topic of politics, I just found out that my school president *will give the opening invocation at the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul on September 3. *</p>

<p>McCain's given a crapload of donations to our school though, and a couple of his kids have graduated from it, so I suppose that it's expected... in a sense.</p>

<p>America</a> | The National Catholic Weekly</p>

<p>If you eat moose meat does it make you smarter?</p>

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ST. PAUL (Reuters) - The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.</p>

<p>Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain....</p>

<p>Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter's pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.</p>

<p>In the short period since she was announced last Friday, Palin has helped to energize the Republican Party's conservative base, giving the McCain camp fresh energy going into the campaign for the November 4 election against Democrat Barack Obama.</p>

<p>McCain officials said the news of the daughter's pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called "mud-slinging and lies" circulating on liberal blog sites.</p>

<p>According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin's child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother."
To</a> rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant | U.S. | Reuters</p>

<p>^ Abstinence only education at work</p>

<p>Okay, going back to the HP joke: Can someone explain to me how Biden is Snape?</p>

<p>"Of course everyone here knows everything! It's unfathomable that we don't, because we are just SOOOOOO smart and SOOOOOO aware of how the world works. You know, because 18 years as a layman and a lifetime as a political personality, THAT's the same thing!"</p>

<p>Baelor, it seems that in every conversation I see you participating in on this forum, you use the age of the people around here as an argument against us--if we disagree with you, it's not because we're making our own informed, intelligent opinions, it's because we're younger than you and we will eventually come to our senses. What are you doing on the <em>High School Life</em> forum? </p>

<p>I will stand by my statement that the decision to make Sarah Palin vice president is a terrible one. No Hillary supporters will ever vote for her and against their reproductive rights and she's woefully unprepared to become commander in chief because, while she may have "executive" experience (albeit with a state with a miniscule population), she has no foreign policy experience. Most importantly, though, McCain will no longer be able to say that "experience matters above all" when criticizing Obama because he chose a candidate with pretty much no experience over people with heaps of it. </p>

<p>Oh, and by the way, Obama called Iran's THREAT "tiny" in comparison to the threat the Soviet Union posed during the Cold War in order to make a point that we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union (and that it worked) and should therefore be willing to talk to Iran. You people are effing geniuses at taking quotes out of context.</p>

<p>^I believe someone in the thread about Palin in the Cafe posted a link to Hillary Clinton's fan forum's topic on Palin. I read through two pages, and every single poster on there was excited about Palin.</p>

<p>There's a difference between being excited about a woman candidate being nominated by the Republican party, which does show some true advancement, and actually voting for somebody who will strip your rights away and is against everything your candidate believed in.</p>

<p>The people who participate in Hillary Clinton discussion forums are mostly on the fringes. The media would like you to believe that all Clinton supporters are going for McCain, but I think it's a tiny, tiny percentage of them. Seriously, those wackjobs on that forum are not typical Hillary supporters.</p>

<p>"Baelor, it seems that in every conversation I see you participating in on this forum, you use the age of the people around here as an argument against us--"</p>

<p>Against "us?" I am "us." I'm not using age (I would LOVE to see all those posts, by the way, I assume they're there if you're making the claim at all.) I'm using a lack of knowledge and experience. In other words, I don't think that high school students understand politics the same way that politicians do. Is this claim outrageous? Is it some novel concept that is clearly false? It's totally correct. We're not politicians, and we don't know what McCain is thinking. Are you one of his advisers? Are you privy to all his personal points of view and justifications for his decisions? No. Are you involved in politics and know how everything works? No. Neither am I. So I refrain from making judgments about the implications of the decision, and focus on my personal reaction to the decision itself. Because my knowledge limits my opinions to things I have some idea about. </p>

<p>"if we disagree with you, it's not because we're making our own informed, intelligent opinions,"</p>

<p>What on earth are you talking about? I've posted over and over that EVERYONE should stop inventing crap about what Palin does for McCain's ticket, whether Hillary voters will support her, etc. You think that I'm limiting this to people I disagree with? How about this: I don't have any opinion beyond my own beliefs versus hers, because I realize that I am not McCain, I am not in his inner circle, I am not a pundit, and I am totally unqualified to make bold and unjustifiable (as distinguished from unjustified) claims about his decision.</p>

<p>"it's because we're younger than you and we will eventually come to our senses."</p>

<p>Parents have made the same mistake. Go read through the cesspit that is the Palin thread in the Parent Caf</p>

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1) Obama is running for President, Palin for VP. Note that unless McCain dies, Palin stays in that spot. And he's not dead yet, and whether he will conk out in office is a prediction that has marginal relevance until some doctor does a precise diagnosis.

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<p>News flash: McCain is OLD. Dying while in office is a real possibility for him. And by the time a doctor makes a "precise diagnosis" it might be too late.</p>

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2) She has two months until the election. She will be coached, prepped, briefed, informed, etc. Obama has changed since the beginning of the campaign, and Palin will change too.

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<p>Obama has had YEARS to prepare for the presidency. Two months just doesn't cut it.</p>

<p>Theory: McCain picked her so he would never be assassinated!</p>

<p>Sarah - your family obviously needs you more than John McCain. Your family values need to start kicking in. Soon!</p>

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Sarah - your family obviously needs you more than John McCain. Your family values need to start kicking in. Soon!

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<p>That's almost word for word what I said when I found out.</p>

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<p>"Theory: McCain picked her so he would never be assassinated!"</p>

<p>LMAO. Good one.</p>

<p>"News flash: McCain is OLD. Dying while in office is a real possibility for him. And by the time a doctor makes a "precise diagnosis" it might be too late."</p>

<p>Yeah, but there's no reason to believe the chance of him dying is larger than the chance of him living. Just because someone is old doesn't mean they're definitely going to die. My grandfather has had cancer, had a huge heart attack, etc. and is still in "great" health.</p>

<p>I find this argument very fluffy unless someone shows that the chance of him dying is 50%+. Maybe by digging up some statistics about cancer survival, etc.</p>

<p>"Obama has had YEARS to prepare for the presidency. Two months just doesn't cut it."</p>

<p>He hasn't been preparing for the presidency. He's been running his campaign. That's what he should be doing. But his "preparation" for the presidency, as far as I see it, is nonexistent.</p>

<p>^ANY chance of that woman becoming president is just scary. Even if McCain had only a 15% chance of dying in office, I wouldn't want to risk it.</p>

<p>Not really. Again, it's not as if she's assuming the Presidency right now. The thought of Obama taking the position when he first started campaigning was frightening, to say the least. Palin becoming President now is just as terrifying. But Obama has come a long way, so why don't we wait until a little bit later to make judgments about whether Palin is ready? As in, near to November 4th.</p>