<p>Got a 2160 (1380) on SAT and 29 on ACT - both times I took it. </p>
<p>Anyone else in the same boat?</p>
<p>Yea, except for me I have a 32 on the ACT and a 1910 on the SAT.</p>
<p>Statistically it seems that more people have a higher ACT than SAT, not because of difficulty but because of the stuff on the SAT such as straightup memorization definitions and other rules.</p>
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<p>Uh, no. The vast majority of kids do equally well (or poor) on both tests, but some do better on one than another.</p>
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<p>Nope. By definition, the SAT includes “reasoning”, particularly on math (the infamous, a train leaves Chicago traveling east…), whereas the ACT is much more straightforward. The ACT gets its reasoning from the so-called science section.</p>
<p>I agree with bluebayou. The ACT is more of an achievement test than a reasoning test. Therefore, if you are a good student, then the ACT shouldn’t be too much trouble. The SAT is reasoning based. Even many 3.7-GPA students receive 2350+ on the SAT (primarily because they are intelligent but excessively lazy).</p>
<p>I have never taken the ACT so I cannot compare that to my SAT results.</p>
<p>I have one son who scored higher on the ACT </p>
<p>I have another son who scored higher on the SAT</p>
<p>That’s why I always say…take both!!!</p>
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<p>The SAT is not totally reasoning based. Very often they’ll have crazy words that you wouldn’t know by “reasoning.” You might be able to use your reasoning to narrow it down, but the vocab words are certainly not reasoning.</p>
<p>My neighbor’s son is an extremely bright but somewhat lazy student. He took the SATs and got a 1380 (2100+). The results of his ACTs–taken just a couple of weeks earlier–were a HIGH of 23. </p>
<p>Huge discrepancy.</p>
<p>LOL Sat reasoning test? Haha, that’s hilarious.</p>
<p>When memorizing vocabulary words (30% of the reading section) becomes REASONING please tell me. Every reading section starts with force-fed word memorization and just when you think it’s done with the passage questions are 50% vocabulary questions too. The ACTUAL questions that test comprehension are similar to the ACT, maybe a bit more difficult here and there because of the obscure wordings used in half of the SAT passages. The rest are get lucky and hope you spent your child hood memorizing worthless words.</p>
<p>The math is hardly reasoning. It’s called GUESS and CHECK. When that becomes reasoning, i’ll laugh so much. There’s no skill in testing and drawing out little pictures and hoping you can guess it off through a few steps.</p>
<p>And the writing part has a required essay part… in 25 minutes, that must be a great way to judge someone’s writing ability…Hmm, maybe it’s not? It also requires outside knowledge, which is hardly worth college success.</p>
<p>The mutiple choice part is choose the BEST answer, which is the BEST to the collegeboard. Unfortunately the collegeboard is 200 years out of date, so half the grammar rules no one cares about or follows.</p>
<p>Oh and what about 1/4 penalty. The more you know about a question the more of a chance you will penalized. It’s better to be stupid, have no idea how to do something and leave a question blank at least you won’t lose 1/4 a point for trying.</p>
<p>^^I don’t necessarily disagree with what you wrote. However, to SOLVE the math problems quickly, reasoning is better (and faster) than guess and check. Indeed, peruse the xiggi test thread and you’ll see that even hard problems can be solved in ~20 seconds, if you can visualize the “tricks” which is another term for reasoning. Sure, guess & check and a good calculator will work, but will take a lot more time.</p>
<p>Yes, knowing vocab is important to CR, but memorizing vocab words is a waste of time, IMO. </p>
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<p>Perhaps not in texting, but colleges do care or they wouldn’t require the test. :D</p>
<p>That’s why someone made the ACT because they realized that the SAT is a complete and utter joke of a test.</p>
<p>SAT > ACT. </p>
<p>It’s more popular, more recognized, etc. </p>
<p>2400 on SAT > 36 on ACT.</p>
<p>^Maybe in like 1960.</p>
<p>The number of people taking both tests is about the same.</p>
<p>^ Yes, but I read somewhere that 2400 > 36 simply because adcoms know how hard it is to score on the SAT because they did it too. We know its both equally hard, but apparently they’re biased.</p>
<p>^^ I don’t agree. EVERY admissions counselor I spoke to, which is about 12, stated that both are considered equally.</p>
<p>A 2400 is equal to a 36 in the eyes of adcoms.</p>
<p>Sure a 36 is equivalent to a 2380-2400, but the difference on the SAT between a 2380 and 2400 is probably not even noticed.</p>