<p>there are several concordance threads that seem to be outdated because the data is based on test results when SAT was on 1,600 scale. What is the most recent concordance table out there which equates the ACT to the 2,400 SAT scale?</p>
<p>If anyone could post a link, or provide a resource to look up, that would be much appreciated!</p>
<p>I'm wondering the same thing. What would a 33 composite score be on the 2400 scale?</p>
<p>Yea...if I got a 32, that's 99 percentile right?</p>
<p>But howcome it's only equivalent to 2130, and not 2200, which is 99 percentile for the SAT?</p>
<p>Don't worry about equivalences. Each college gets tons of applicants with ACTs and they are accessed accordingly.</p>
<p>However, using the UC equiv. chart, a 31 is about a 2100, 32 = 3260, all+/- 60 for each point</p>
<p>You can see this in the back of the UC handbook</p>
<p>33 is now 1460/2180. down 10 points from 1470/2190 argh! how is 99th percentile not even 2200?! and why did ACT/collegeboard come out with a writing section equivalence? the least used section in admissions.</p>
<p>if were applying to scholarships that ask for the SAT score but not your ACT score, do we just put the equivalent SAT score for our ACT score?</p>
<p>Hey guys!</p>
<p>I have a concordance table posted on my blog. We use it to help students we work with decide which test to take.</p>
<p>A</a> Useful Concordance Table for the SAT and ACT | Omniac Attack!</p>
<p>Let me know if you guys find it more useful than the one produced by College Board.</p>
<p>i agree with your article completely. these new concordance tables are very frustrating. i think the writing concordance table is just useless. anyway i like how you simply put the ACT and SAT percentiles in perspective. however it's still unsatisfying to know that colleges won't use that table when they possibly should. </p>
<p>IMO, the ACT and SAT are not comparable. Achievement vs. aptitude (reasoning), timing, number of questions, material (trig vs. basic geometry), number of people who take the two tests, different curves -1 = 34 etc... the two tests can simply not be compared. colleges should stick to the percentiles of each individual test but with one qualification. since the two tests are not comparable then it wouldn't make sense to convert scores based on percentiles. just because you are 99% for ACT doesn't mean you should be 99% for the SAT. </p>
<p>Also, how do we really know what colleges convert scores? as you all know the colleges have middle 50% score ranges. maybe the admissions officers have become so familiar with strong applicants to their school and their test scores that adcoms can judge if the ACT score or SAT score is sufficient or not. maybe they don't need these concordances tables. </p>
<p>in the end, i feel that these concordance tables artificially give too much attention to the two tests and place extra importance on the test scores. in reality, test scores aren't everything.</p>
<p>Absolutely! Test scores are not the end all and be all of college applications.</p>
<p>However, this isn't about colleges converting the scores. It's about finding out which test is a better match for the student.</p>
<p>Let's say you score a 20 on the ACT and a 1400 on the SAT. If you look at the table, you can determine that the ACT is a slightly better test for you to focus on because your starting score is slightly better.</p>
<p>There's no need to take both tests. The concordance table helps to figure out which test you should be taking.</p>
<p>^ well yeah i agree with that.</p>
<p>That's actually what makes me crazy about the new tables they released...totally useless! Argh. I hate them. :)</p>
<p>unfortunately, mark, the logic of your table is missing, bcos colleges do not use the percentiles. The old concordance table mapped a 31 ACT to a 1380 SAT. Your new table maps claims that its now equivalent to a 2140 SAT. Since the CB claim that the new math & CR are equivalent to the old math & CR, how can you claim that the addition of the ACT writing section is worth 760 SAT points, when you are not even using the ACT-W subscore?</p>
<p>Bluebayou,</p>
<p>The key word here is "claim." The SAT can claim whatever it wants about what maps or doesn't map. The truth is that colleges are going to see groups of students with scores that match the percentile ranges.</p>
<p>Take a 32. It's the 99th percentile. That means that approximately 1% of students will have an ACT score of 32. When those students apply to colleges, they will stand out as the top 1 percentile of students. </p>
<p>Is this because colleges look at percentiles? No. It's because they will see so few 32s.</p>
<p>The table is designed to help students determine where they stand overall between the two tests. The ACT-W subscore is useless and ignored by most colleges. I believe the SAT-W score is about to start getting used with the release of new data from the SAT supporting it.</p>
<p>^^But, the real question is do colleges see a 31 as a 1400/200+? For public colleges like the UCs, the answer is clearly no. They view a 32 as a 1400/2100+. </p>
<p>As an example of a private college, look at Northwestern for example. (NW is good bcos it lives in ACT country, so recieves lotsa scores from both tests.) The NW 75th percentile for a 34 ACT and 1520 SAT (CR+M), which maps exactly to the old concordance table. NU's 25th is 30-1350 which, again, matches the former concordance table. Thus, regardless of whether any of us buy into CB-ACT's methodology/study, a major private uni is using it exactly as written. </p>
<p>But, based on your conversion chart, a 29 ACT would make the 25th percentile at NU, when it clearly would not. (Yeah, I don't see much difference between a 29 & 30, but some adcoms just might.) </p>
<p>As you note, colleges do not consider percentiles. And, this IS an important distinction, at least to those kids considering the top 20 or so private colleges, where they see plenty (not "few") of scores that are 31+.</p>
<p>So you are saying that most colleges will use the concordance table that College Board has put out, regardless of the fact that it's not rooted in reality?</p>
<p>And how does it change where students should focus their time? Do top 20 colleges somehow see a 34 differently than a 32 because of the new table?</p>
<p>^^No, I did not say that. And, I didn't say the second either.</p>
<p>But, since you asked....is a 34 viewed differently than a 32? IMO, absolutely; it was yesterday and it will be tomorrow. Take a look-see at the merit cutoffs for UMiami. A 34 puts one in contention for a full tuition scholarship. A 32 puts one in contention for for $24k, which is great, but not as great as 100% tuition. A 31 contends for a $16k annual scholarship. So, yes, one more point can matter for a lot of $$, (just like one more point on the psat).</p>
<p>Is it viewed differently "because of the new table"? Nope.</p>
<p>What happened to college board's 'official' score chart? the link doesnt work anymore. and ones i have seen else where put my 31 lower than a 2140 i remember...</p>