<p>I have no experience with SAT IIs and cannot help you, but I felt like popping in and asking this: Your username refers to Neutral Milk Hotel, or no? If it does, we should be friends.</p>
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<p>It varies with the college, for instance:</p>
<p>[Fitzsimmons</a> Defends SAT II | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2008/3/21/fitzsimmons-defends-sat-ii-as-a/]Fitzsimmons”>Fitzsimmons Defends SAT II | News | The Harvard Crimson)</p>
<p>[SAT</a> May Someday Be Optional, Dean Says | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2008/9/23/sat-may-someday-be-optional-dean/]SAT”>SAT May Someday Be Optional, Dean Says | News | The Harvard Crimson)</p>
<p>FallenAngel - yes, haha, it does! </p>
<p>iCalculus - I’m not even sure. I don’t think I was ready to take it, and I shouldn’t’ve. I knew that Yale required 2, but I thought that maybe everyone did 3, and the requirement was just a polite way of saying, “Take 3!” </p>
<p>But what’s done is done, right? </p>
<p>So, I’ll reiterate: At this point, if I retake and get a 700+, will they effectively “ignore” the other? It is an achievement test, and I think that you CAN study and –> do well, so hopefully they’ll see that by that point, I am proficient in French.</p>
<p>We should be friends.</p>
<p>so I guess it’s not possible to send them your ACT scores plus choose certain subject test(s)? =/</p>
<p>Hey I’m a little concerned about my SAT subject scores… are these still competitive? </p>
<p>720 Biology E
720 Bio M (retook it)
790 Math II (2nd time)
720 Math II
710 World History
690 Chem</p>
<p>Do you have to send in all your SAT II scores?</p>
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<p>If you send in any SAT I or II scores, you have to send them all.</p>
<p>It’s all here and Y has made their SAT/ACT policy very clear this year:</p>
<p>[Instructions</a> for Reporting Your Scores | Application to Yale College | Freshmen | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/score_reporting.html]Instructions”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/score_reporting.html)</p>
<p>If you were to retake a subject test, and obviously score higher, do you have to send the old score? Based on their policy, I am assuming yes 
I’m screwed!
haha, but if they claim to only look at your best scores…</p>
<p>What would happen to someone who violated the score choice policy, I wonder how strict they’re about it? Either way if you score higher on the SAME exam, I’m sure it’s okay.</p>
<p>Thank you bluecoast 
I was actually wondering the same thing, if someone were to “accidentally” forget to add a particular SAT score… 
No honestly, if there was a huge marginal difference on the second try, hopefully they would look past that. As one final question, if I were to not retake the Bio subject test (biology=not my thing) then would that look really bad? Assuming you did better on the other tests.</p>
<p>I recognize that you were jesting, irishtraveler, but it wouldn’t be an “accident” for College Board reports because you wouldn’t use Score Choice in the first place. (For the ACT, you pay a separate score report fee per sitting, so it’s conceivable, though unlikely, someone would forget to send in scores for all of their sittings.)</p>
<p>That’s important because it seems that some people find it tempting to exclude some scores that they’ve decided might hurt them. And maybe they don’t understand the consequences, because if you “accidentally” forget to send them all in…you could very well be screwed. And here are some examples of how and why:</p>
<p>While the College Board might honor your Score Choice request, there are some high schools that include all the scores on their transcripts. And what if a recommendation letter includes an explanation of your low (omitted) score? In one instance that I’m aware of, a college (not Yale) noticed that the high school omitted SAT scores from its transcript (at the request of a student), but that high school had included scores for its other applicants, so the college pressed the high school for full disclosure. There’s some relationship pressure a college can use with a high school guidance counselor who has a long-term relationship with the college to consider, so it could get squeezed out. (In the end – in this one peculiar case – the high school held firm and said it would only disclose with that student’s consent and the college backed down since it wasn’t all that hard up for the additional info anyway. I have no idea whether the applicant was accepted or not.)</p>
<p>Maybe it’s not all that serious, but committing academic fraud on your application (or, viewed more politely, failing to follow an instruction that Yale has stated in plain English – far better than most colleges) is the opposite of putting your best foot forward.</p>
<p>And then you have to consider whether it’s worth it. The AdComs will have ACCESS to all your scores, but as I understand the process, they only actively look at a summary sheet in which your top scores are summarized for them. (See Harambee’s [post</a> #2 in this thread](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1065115037-post2.html]post”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1065115037-post2.html).) The decision makers might not ever see the other, low score that you send in. I doubt that they’re actively looking to find applicants who cheat the system…but I suspect that if it comes to their attention that someone tried to cheat the system, the only reaction would be a rejection letter, with no indication that they caught on.</p>
<p>Even excluding the ethics of the matter from the equation, you have to calculate how much damage a “bad,” superfluous test score buried in your folder where it might never be seen will do to your application and then weigh that risk against the odds (arguably slim) that they’ll discover that you used Score Choice (times 99% odds that such a discovery will quickly land your folder in the tallest stack of folders). If you’ve got four years of top-notch grades and ECs…why would you take the chance of flushing all that away by giving an AdCom an excellent excuse to quickly move on to the next applicant’s folder without first getting a full reading of your record? To make sure that they might not see an above-average number that they’re not really looking for in the first place? That “score choice” (no trademark here) deserves a quick rejection not just for the ethics…but also because it’s a bad math choice. You show respect for all the rest of your achievements over the past 3+ years by not rolling dice and possibly having all of that discounted to 0.</p>
<p>“I was actually wondering…if someone were to “accidentally” forget to add a particular SAT score…”</p>
<p>You can’t accidentally forget to add a score. The College Board’s website is set-up to send ALL scores automatically to the schools of your choosing. You may purposely opt not to send a score by selecting the CHOOSE SCORES box.</p>
<p>Hi, I have an SATii question to kind of tack on the end of this thread:
I know it is a requirement to send ALL SAT scores to Yale, (like in an official score report) but is it necessary to write in subpar SATii scores in the commonapp section for “other” test scores if you have taken more than the required 2? And it’s probably been asked a lot, but do you think the admissions department looks only at the top 2 SATii scores if more than 2 are submitted?</p>
<p>Yeah, you have to send in all SAT II scores if you choose to go the SAT route. And I think they have access to all of them. I have no idea how they consider them, though.</p>
<p>[Instructions</a> for Reporting Your Scores | Application to Yale College | Freshmen | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/score_reporting.html]Instructions”>http://www.yale.edu/admit/freshmen/application/score_reporting.html)</p>
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<p>D’yer- Yes, I was jesting with that quote, and that is all. I do not agree with cheating your way out of something, and not being honest. No matter how much I hate those scores, there is no way that I would not put the scores on my application. I believe in honesty, and I am going to be 100% honest and send all my scores. Fraudulence in any manner, academic or otherwise; is a waste of time, and I would rather be happily rejected with those scores (or otherwise, haha) than go on with a guilty conscience. I shouldn’t have even been joking around. No harm, no foul.</p>