<p>you’re ignoring the fact that the legacy pool, at all ivies, is stronger in terms of stats than the general pool</p>
<p>Who’s ignoring that fact?</p>
<p>There is very good research that the average legacy admit is weaker than unhooked admits- I think it was in “The Early Admissions Game”.<br>
Maybe somebody could help me out on this. Of course the fact that legacy admits were weaker was the reason they were screened out in that study. Some are indeed strong, but most would not have made the cut without being legacies. Please read “The Price of Admission” as well.
Just on the anecdotes, having kids at two Ivy League schools, many legacies are just not impressive. Then there is my daughter’s Princeton legacy friend. Also admitted to Harvard and Yale.
There was also a book, I think called “Getting In”, several years ago about admissions at Princeton. The Director of Admissions was described as tempted to write on an admissions letter “you would have gotten in without your dad”. I think the legacy boost is obvious and huge at the Ivy League schools. That the Director of Admissions would think to write a personal note is indicative of that.
Often overlooked among the hooked are the professor and administrator admits, the politician admits, the celebrity admits and the development cases. Don’t just add up the URMs, legacies and recruited athletes- the last category about 18% at Princeton.</p>
<p>I KNOW what hook means, but what is an exhaustive list of the types of hooks?</p>
<p>according to you guys…</p>
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<p>Certainly some would still be top applicants. Be careful how you distinguish “some” from “most,” “all,” and “a majority.” </p>
<p>Some hooked applicants are top students at top universities.
A majority of hooked applicants have lower stats than a majority of unhooked applicants (basically, if X = average stats of hooked applicants, and Y = average stats of unhooked applicants, Y>X).</p>
<p>What exactly do you classify as development cases?</p>
<p>To the OP- try to improve your CR score, up to 730ish at least. Don’t fret if your new math score doesn’t hit 800, as your Math II score is great. Somewhere adcoms have said they like to see at least five scores in the 700s, so the closer you can get those to the 75th percentiles for Princeton, the better your position will be.</p>