<p>What's harder, getting a 2300 on the SAT, or getting a 750 on the GMAT? And also 2400 vs. 800? I just took a practice test and got a score in the 2380-2400 range. I'm guessing GMAT scores that are very high are much harder to get because everyone who is applying to business schools already have proven themselves by attending and graduating from college.</p>
<p>Are the verbal and mathematical sections of the GMAT just harder in terms of the questions? (I read that only one in 13,500 people gets a perfect score and that a score of 760 is in the 99.5th percentile).</p>
<p>I guess they are different, but to answer your question and boost your self-esteem, I personally do think a 2400 on the SAT (highschool level) is similar to an 800 on the GMAT. Specially since vertually EVERY highschooler takes the SATs, the number of perfect scores have to be higher than the number of 800 GMATs. </p>
<p>But ofcourse, if you haven't even taken the SATs.... I would not worry about the GMAT for another 4 years? maybe 10? or never?</p>
<p>2380-2400... that's pretty impressive. : ) good luck with college admissions.</p>
<p>Sorry if I sounded harsh. I wasn't trying to belittle the awesome SAT score of the OP. I agree with kkamida11 on the statistical basis.</p>
<p>To elaborate, supery, IMO the GMAT tests knowledge that may be more cursory than that found on the SAT, however the GMAT tests one's ability to think more so than one's knowledge of a certain topic. So harder may be relative to whether or not you have trained yourself to how they ask the questions.</p>
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<p>Based upon the years of studying for the SAT that most that post around here seem to do, and the fact that the vast majority of people who take the GMAT are working full time when they are studying for and taking the GMAT, I doubt that your statement is accurate. Most of my classmates in business school said that they took a couple of practice tests and then sat for the GMAT (as did I).</p>
<p>I completely disagree. The SAT, GRE, GMAT, LSAT, etc...are all closely related. Why? Because they are all IQ tests in sheeps clothing. For a rough approximation, assuming the same amount of preparation for each test, take your SAT score, divide it by 2 and add 20 points to predict your GMAT score. This was true on the old, pre-re-centered SAT, not sure about the new versions. You can also correlate your scores to an IQ. This is why Mensa will accept the GMAT score for admission, because the score can be converted to IQ. I think 700 GMAT ~130 IQ or so. Please take the caveat that I said that the score conversion is only accurate with the same amount of preparation. It is easy to raise your score to approach your potential maximum score with a few months of intense studying.</p>
<p>If they are IQ tests, it's pretty ironic. You can't have IQ test for employment, but you can have them as an intermediate process of employment.</p>
<p>In any case, my IQ percentile is definitely not 99.98%, as my SAT score would indicate. That would be an IQ of 150+. My IQ is definitely above average, but NOT that high.</p>
<p>Whoa, SAT is far from being an IQ test. So, your saying that students who initially gets a 1900, then studies for 2 months and recieves a 2150 (happens quite often) also increases their IQs??? Same goes for the GMAT, DAT, LSAT, etc.</p>
<p>I will admit (specially for the DAT) that there is a section exclusively for your IQ, but the entire test does not reflect towards an IQ test.</p>
<p>I've seen TOO many people raise their scores dramatically to believe that these standarized tests are IQ tests.</p>
<p>How to estimate IQ based on SAT and GRE...this is for the pre 1997 SAT. also, you Can raise IQ score (but not IQ) by studying to score closer to your maximum potential.</p>
<p>Scrole to the bottom of this page and input 1 value to predict the rest...again with the caveat that you prepare the same for all tests. YES these tests are all IQ tests, are all similar and can be used to predict eachother. </p>
<p>Membership in Mensa is open to persons who have attained a score within the upper two percent of the general population on an approved intelligence test that has been properly administered and supervised. There is no other qualification or disqualification for membership eligibility. </p>
<p>Some intelligence tests don't use IQ scores at all. Mensa has set a percentile as cutoff to avoid this confusion. Candidates for membership in Mensa must achieve a score at or above the 98th percentile on a standard test of intelligence (a score that is greater than or equal to that achieved by 98 percent of the general population taking the test). </p>
<p>Generally, there are two ways to prove that you qualify for Mensa: either take the Mensa test, or submit a qualifying test score from another test. There are a large number of intelligence tests that are "approved". </p>
<p>(Percentile rank of
verbal + quantitative)**</p>
<p>95</p>
<p>GRE prior to 5/94 (math + verbal) 1250
from 5/94 to 9/01
(math + verbal + analytic) 1875</p>
<p>effective 10/01</p>
<p>N/A</p>
<p>Henmon-Nelson</p>
<pre><code>132
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<p>LSAT*** prior to 1982 662
effective 1982 (total percentile rank) 95
Miller Analogies Test (MAT) prior to 10/04 (raw score) 66
after 10/04
(total group percentile score)</p>
<p>98</p>
<p>PSAT (taken in junior year) prior to 5/93 180
effective 5/93</p>
<p>N/A</p>
<p>PSAT (taken in senior year)
prior to 5/93
effective 5/93</p>
<p>195
N/A
SAT or CEEB prior to 9/30/74 1300
from 9/30/74 to 1/1/94 1250</p>
<p>That is nuts. I got tested for Mensa in 2nd grade (I am 24 now) and I have a 162 IQ. That means I have a higher IQ than 99.9982 percent of the country.</p>
<p>BUT my ACT score was 24 and my SAT was 1080 (However I think I was hungover one of them and I just didnt care back then at all in any way). I am about to take the GMAT with bits and pieces of studying and with practice tests I fall in the 650 range.</p>
<p>A GMAT score of 95th percentile would get you into Mensa…that would also get you into Harvard. </p>
<p>My grandfather had an IQ of 180…terrible at standardized tests, much like myself. Most high IQ people just analyze and think very different than most people. Say for example math problem is laid out in front of myself and a regular joe person. The way I would derive the answer would more than likely be SUPER different than regular joe. That is why most IQ tests are puzzle type problems with no formula, directions, proper way, etc. Just “how can you figure out this puzzle with very little time” type stuff. </p>
<p>I think GMAT, SAT, ACT are very hard because all the math problems you basically put into a formula and solve. I cannot see word problems and put them into formulas. I can solve most in my head but by solving different pieces of it and putting them together.</p>
<p>An IQ of 180? I find that very hard to believe…</p>
<p>Also, a 162 IQ means you have the intellectual capacity to make the SAT look like a walk through the park (I have a family member with a 163 IQ who got a 1590 on the SAT and a 36 on the ACT. He got one question wresting on his LSAT.)</p>
<p>Haha whoever is saying they have a IQ of 162 yet they got a 24 on ACT/ 1000s for the SAT is living in a fantasy land. I know people who did 0 preparation, have reading disabilities, and are average c students who got those scores. A IQ of 162 puts you off the chart for IQ percentiles and probably the equivalent of Einsteins level of intelligence. And then a 650 on the GMAT… (not bad but not great). If your IQ was that high you would have no problem adjusting and solving the equations. And your grandfather has a 180 IQ? I don’t know that much about IQ tests but I’ve heard that would place him in the measurably genius section with like only 300 people in the entire world having that IQ statistically. Do you really think your grandfather is one of the smartest 300 people in the world yet he can’t take a standardized test.<br>
I guess its possible but so is winning the lottery 10 times in a row. </p>