<p>I scored a 690 reading 750 writing 610 math on my SATs and I'm looking to apply to top tier schools including Brown and Columbia. I heard recently from a valuable source that ivy league schools will only accept you with 700s and that my scores are fine except my math scores must be in the 700s.</p>
<p>The only thing hindering me from ivy (so I've been told) is my math scores and SAT 2s. I have improved my community which is definitely something unique and that I take great pride in, so I do think I'm in the running. Also, I know that there is a middle range for scores so not EVERYONE gets a 700 but who I heard it from is a valuable source who has tutored many ivy-bound students. How likely am I to get in with a 650 math on the October SAT (worst case scenario)? Also with 640s on SAT2s?</p>
<p>The scores are definitely on the lower end of the spectrum assuming all your other stuff is just average. I wouldn’t think you’d be completely out of the running but it will likely be a hinderance… on CC I’ve seen 2100 tossed around as a good minimum to be at least competitive for ivies.</p>
<p>Last year Columbia’s middle 50 was 2100-2330; I can’t find Brown’s on their site.</p>
<p>Unfortunately unless you’re a recruited athlete or a URM, it would be very unlikely. Frankly, 700 would be much too low for a candidate without a hook. </p>
<p>Median scores are about 740 per section at these schools. You would want to be above median for a decent shot. Half of the class can have lower scores because they have a hook. The unhooked candidates need to bring the scores up.</p>
<p>To figure out which schools you will be seriously in the running for look at the 75th percentile numbers on College Board. For these schools that number would be about 770. It’s brutally hard to get into these schools now, they accept under 10% of applicants.</p>
<p>yeah… your SAT scores are a little too low. it’ll def be a hindrance but who knows- maybe you’ve done something that is very impressive in the eyes of admissions</p>
<p>i hope you’re not applying to ivy league just for the prestige. brown and columbia better fit you as a student, if not, there are many other top schools that would be more likely for you too attend</p>
<p>I’ve heard stories of applicants with 1700 SAT scores and got into Brown. But then again he was Hispanic from a very poor family but with excellent grades or something.</p>
<p>There is no minimum SAT score, though lower scores will make it much more unlikely to be accepted without exceptional things in other areas. I would also advise you to get your math score up, and hopefully your reading as well.
Where did you get this? I know a lot of people add up the middle range scores for all of the sections, but that’s not actually accurate. If, however, they released the composite range, that would be very helpful for the OP.</p>
<p>please do not fall into the ******** that is the SAT. that test is absolutely garbage. it means nothing and will never do anything for you. all the jackasses on this site are upsessed with it because they werent good at anything else except the SAT/ standardized tests and thus they think theyre now “better” than everyone else and they want everyone to know it. They are not better. nobody is better. what will make you successful is following you passions and career goals no matter where you go. I frankly could have cared less about that awful abomination they call the SAT and went to my community college instead for a year, and now i am into the clark school of engineering at the university of maryland. It has always been my dream to be an engineer, and i know that i am “smart enough” to make it. I dont need any ******** exam to tell me how smart i am. Do not pay any attention to all the hype. The SAT is for losers. Never give in. I beg of you.</p>
<p>^ Even if the test doesn’t mean anything, which it doesn’t, it’s stupid to lower your chances of going to a good school just because you think it’s for “losers.” Why would you not try your best on something that might help you get a better job in the future? Sure, it’s not the ONLY way - but it’s probably way easier to study for the SAT than to go to community college and try to be the best student there for four years. You’re really blind if you believe everything you typed up there.
Nobody thinks they’re better than anybody else when they get a high score… how often do you see people running around telling others their score? All you’re doing is give off the vibe of being butt hurt right now.</p>
<p>Notice that the guy that is ticked off about SAT has one post, and spelled Obsessed wrong. Just saying. And as everyone has said that’s on the low end, mostly everyone in the bottom 25% (you’re about right at 25%) did something special. Not necessarily a “hook” like URM or Athlete, but maybe they won a national competition, or done published research, etc., which it doesn’t sound like you’ve done. I’d bring up those scores to at least 2200 to be anywhere near competitive, realistically. I’d still apply either way, because you never know what might happen!</p>
<p>There is no harm in applying to Ivy schools, but think of it as entering a lottery with very low odds (for everyone, not just you!), generally less than 10%. Make sure you have plenty of matches and safeties on your list because the odds are that is where you will end up.</p>