<p>If something doesn't directly affect you, I see no reason for it to matter. At best you'll teach her a lesson and make her hate you indefinately. At worst she'll get into a lot of trouble and then you can feel guilty about ruining her life. In other words - talk to her if you want, in private, or let her figure out for herself how to live her life.</p>
<p>It will be a he said she said thing....she will deny it, you have no proof, and what she did was wrong, but all she will do is deny it, and nothing will happen just a lot of upset people</p>
<p>I think cheating is bad, its like stealing, but sometimes, you just have to let it go because the school didn't catch her, and your saying what you saw won' t really change anything, she will just say I did not cheat. </p>
<p>Really sad all around</p>
<p>That's the only difference between the A and the A- student. One is better at cheating than the other. You always see the stupidest kids cheating so blatantly obvious to the entire class, with a paper on his desk, yet that girl with the 4.0 has the answers on the sole of her shoe that 2 kids see. We had a survey at our school and 90% of the kids said they have cheated entirely on homework, 89% entirely on an exam, 55% entirely on a paper, and 45% entirely on a final.</p>
<p>lostincode, hilarious. :D</p>
<p>Turn her in. </p>
<p>If she tried and failed honestly she would deserve some leniency later.</p>
<p>you never turn anyone in.. its the teachers job to check for cheating and if you dont get caught its their fault.. kind of like a bank error in your favor</p>
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you never turn anyone in.. its the teachers job to check for cheating and if you dont get caught its their fault.. kind of like a bank error in your favor
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<p>I hope your daughter gets raped and murdered later in life and they never find the culprit...kind of like a bank error just not in your favor because its the crime department's job to check for evidence of the culprit and if the criminal doesn't get caught its their fault.</p>
<p>God forbid someone tries to do the right thing and promote honesty in the school system right? We should help to cheat just like we should help corruption arise in our government as well as promote violence and anarchy in our life.</p>
<p>That is the most ridiculous analogy I have ever heard. What others do in regards to testing is none of our business. I honestly doubt that a girl cheating on a test has anything to do with a girl being raped. Oh no, knowing that the answer to Question 53 is C instead of B is EXACTLY the same as pulling a girl into an alley and physically assaulting her.</p>
<p>I hope you kill yourself, jerk.</p>
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That is the most ridiculous analogy I have ever heard. What others do in regards to testing is none of our business. I honestly doubt that a girl cheating on a test has anything to do with a girl being raped. Oh no, knowing that the answer to Question 53 is C instead of B is EXACTLY the same as pulling a girl into an alley and physically assaulting her.</p>
<p>I hope you kill yourself, jerk.
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<p>I'm a jerk for promoting honesty?</p>
<p>I would never guess that the top elite students would support cheating in a website which "believes" in total social darwinism. I guess however its accompanied by situational irony in which we don't believe we learn by questioning things and gaining knowledge but we are Machiavelian and believe the ends justifies the means? The people who believe in this don't really believe in darwin's theory but instead believe that one who can cheat the most truly is the best or that cheating is justified by his actions in the mere future but then we can get into human behavior. Once you become a drunk isn't it hard to stop drinking? So once you become a cheater we can argue that the same situation follows. If you cheat once you will eventually become a chronic cheater for possible reasons such as the thrill, the lazyness, and maybe the ease of it and have a hard time changing your ways.</p>
<p>I guess now we know why some people believe that it isn't the college you attend but what you make of your educational experience simply because all the top schools are filled with cheaters and not people who have a love of learning and desire to succeed. How wrong of me to have faith and keep my believe that this society is composed of at least the basic morals right?</p>
<p>Name3less, I agree with you, but I don't think it's really that you're attacking cheating that bedelish is calling you a jerk for. Your comment that "I hope your daughter gets raped and murdered later in life" was a bit much, to say the least. I would be quite offended if anyone said that to me, and I doubt that I'm alone.</p>
<p>The thing to think about is this:</p>
<p>OP: I saw Becky cheating, she had little pieces of paper around her pen</p>
<p>Becky: I wasn't cheating, I did not have little pieces of paper</p>
<p>Teacher: Can you prove it?</p>
<p>OP: Well, no, but I saw it!!!!</p>
<p>IF girl aced the test, how would anyone at this point prove it? THey can retest her I suppose, but then what?</p>
<p>Cheating is wrong, but all we have is someone seeing something a week ago, so what can be done now? She will deny, and get really upset, she is overwhelmed by everything, and you have someone who thinks they saw something..</p>
<p>She could just say she was nervous and was tearing paper...</p>
<p>So that is why I say you wil have to let it go, because the obvious outcome will change nothing, and create a lot of drama and heartache with no different an outcome</p>
<p>If you had said something during the test, or as you turned in your paper, where evidence could be found, maybe they could do something, but its like I saw her steal the soda, well, does she have the soda, um, no</p>
<p>You should turn her in. Last year my mother was diagnosed with cancer for the second time and my grandmother died. Then this year my mom was diagnosed with cancer again, but in no way have i cheated on any exam, test, or school work. Such things in no way justify cheating.</p>
<p>It's too late to turn her in now. I agree that you should talk to her. Cheating is serious, whether you have an honor code/take it seriously or not.</p>
<p>"May the best cheater win" is one of the dumbest mantras I've ever heard. Seriously, get a life.</p>
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<p>I pray to God every day that people like you do not procreate.</p>
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<p>Have you even read Spencer or Sumner?
The fact that the girl would have been able to bypass the system and progress through her own ability to "survive", cheat without being caught by an authority figure, is indicative of her potential to succeed under a social Darwinist framework.</p>
<p>don't turn her in. you'll have to deal with people like that your whole life, get used to it... just do better yourself.</p>
<p>I like how people get on the moral high horse and consider it their duty to "turn in others" for the sake of "helping" them in life. What they're doing is destroying someone in order to save them. Noble, no?</p>
<p>I know...if you were in her situation, would you want your whole future to collapse in a matter of the sentences you utter to the teacher? Yes, we all know that cheating is wrong, but sometimes when things aren't going right, which the OP notes himself, as humans we tend to rationalize that the only way out is to go the easy way out. I think she deserves a chance to learn this lesson herself, without punishment, but rather learn this leason by self-reflection. You should write her a note and place it in her locker, but don't tell her who it is. Tell her you know what she did, that you know she is going through a rough patch in her life, and that you have no intention of turning her in.</p>
<p>If you or anyone you know "reports" cheaters, I'd like you to meet my cousin Vinny, Uncle Tony, and my great Uncle Leonardo. They'll be glad to discuss the finer arts of keeping your mouth shut.</p>
<p>jnesse - the fact that you're appalled by someone's cheating shows that you are a good, moral person. That alone should let you sleep at night. Your morality is the only thing you have to worry about, and the fact that you do well by your own hard work is something you can be proud of.</p>
<p>The only reason I would suggest telling someone about this is if this girl was valedictorian or something, and completely cheated her way to the top. In that case, someone else would be cheated out of something they deserved. However, it seems like her grades are pretty average and she's only hurting herself.</p>
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<p>Do you seriously think that cheating has no role to play in Social Darwinism? Survival of the fittest has <em>always</em> been survival of the most corrupt. Sup, John D. Rockefeller. </p>
<p>And if you're going to be honest with yourself, most (and I say most because there are some really upstanding moral kids out there, even if the number is frighteningly low) "top, elite" students? Have no honor when it comes to academia. The AP students at my school cheat like no other. Half of the seniors I know who are going to UVA (infamous for its rigorous honor code) are incorrigible cheaters.</p>