Schedule Help/Advice/Suggestions/Comments/Whathaveyou, por favor!

<p>Major: BA in Comp Science w/ intent of applying to medical school
(Also thinking of a BA or minor in Biology)</p>

<p>Credits:
AP English Literature (ENLT 249) - got a 4
AP Psychology (PSYC 101) - got a 4
HL History (HIST 000T) - got a 6</p>

<p>First Year - Fall
Chem 141 MWF 9:00 am - 9:50 am - Prof. Gerrans
Bio 201 MWF 11:00 am - 11:50 am - Prof. Kittleson
ENWR 110 MWF 12:00 pm - 12:50 pm - Prof. Clark</p>

<p>Bio 203 T 10:00 am - 1:00 pm - Prof. Kittleson
Chem 141L R 9:30 am - 1:00 pm - Prof. Gerrans</p>

<p>First Year - Spring
Chem 142 & 142L
Bio 202 & 204
CS 150
Poli Sci</p>

<p>Second Year - Fall
Chem 241 & 242L
Math 131
AAS 101
CS 205</p>

<p>Second Year - Spring
Chem 242 & 242L
Math 132
CS 202
CS 230</p>

<p>3rd Year
Phys 201-204, Stats 212, 1 Lit Course, Spanish, Degree(s) requirements</p>

<p>4th Year
Degree(s) requirements</p>

<p>I would REALLY appreciate any help I can get with my future schedule. I am probably getting too neurotic about scheduling but I didn’t care about my schedule in high school and it really bit me in the ass. I believe my schedule will satisfy all area, competency, and pre-med requirements. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong.</p>

<li>Is my schedule too easy for med-school admissions? (esp. frosh year b/c I really want to ease into college life)</li>
<li>Is 9:00 am early for college? Is a 9-1 daily schedule suitable for an afternoon job? I was thinking 2-6 pm 5 days a week at a hospital + shadowing occasionally would be a good EC…</li>
<li>Should I condense my schedule to 10-1 by taking chem with Metcalf? or stick with Gerrans?</li>
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<p>Thanks so much UVa CCer’s. You guys are the best!</p>

<p>I am not an expert in scheduling for pre-med students, but I have friends who are CS majors. Most of them take calc (Math 131/132/231) in their first year, as you have to take other higher level math classes such as math 325. </p>

<p>Be sure to have a list of other classes for the fall semester as you might not get into all of them - that is only if you have NOT registered for classes at summer orientation.</p>

<p>Your plans may very well change after your first year.</p>

<p>I'm taking Organic this year and I know that the labs are VERY long. After your first year, take a good look at your programming abilities. Are you going to be up to taking a 4 hour lab and then having to debug a programming assignment all night?</p>

<p>I would move physics to second year and switch organic to third.</p>

<p>barboza, could you send me a link to a website stating math requirements for Computer Science BA's? All I see required are the typical area and competency requirements. Besides that, you could take math as an integration elective but I figured I'd rather take a biology integration elective. Are higher level math classes such as Math 325 strongly suggested or even taken for granted? I don't see any writing like that on the BA Computer Science website.</p>

<p>MechWahoo, are CS202, CS205, and CS230 extremely time consuming? I was looking at the BA flowchart and it seems like those 3 classes are on the second tier (first tier is CS150). I figured those wouldn't be too bad to mix with orgo. Also, wouldn't orgo 3rd year mess up MCAT's? I have to apply for med school at the end of the 3rd year meaning I would have to take the MCAT's without finishing the course. I decided physics 3rd year wouldn't be bad considering the physics on the MCAT's isn't incredibly hard plus I took physics for a whole year in junior year of high school.</p>

<p>Also, are you allowed to have courses count for 2 majors? Some of these integration electives for the BA Comp Sci are higher level biology courses. I might as well save myself the time and energy and knock out both at the same time, right?</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses guys. I appreciate it.</p>

<p>P.S. My orientation is Session J (July 21-22). Won't I have a good shot at getting my ideal schedule due to the fact I will have everything figured out? Can't I just walk up and tell them the course numbers while everyone else is looking through the course lists?</p>

<p>I had Professor Gerrans my first year. He's great.</p>

<p>I'm third-year biomedical engineering/prehealth. The recommended sequence for BME is to take organic in the third year. </p>

<p>After 4 hours of a lab, though, I know that I will be dead by the end of the day and I won't feel like doing much that evening. </p>

<p>Honestly, though, I wouldn't worry about this now. Your mind may well change after your first year. Take your basic courses and take another look in the spring.</p>

<p>you're assigned a specific time slot, on the last day of orientation, to register, so knowing what you want coming in doesn't make any difference to prioritizing registration, sorry.</p>

<p>Computer</a> Science BA - Sample Schedules</p>

<p>Jask:</p>

<p>I commend your motivation and diligence in attempting to draft a "master plan" to help guide your future class selections at UVa. Despite the fact that the school specifically discouraged such a practice last year prior to attending Orientation, my son did one and it has served him very well during his first three semesters at the University.</p>

<p>Regarding your specific questions, I suggest you stick with Mr. Gerrans for Chem 141; he's very good.</p>

<p>Also, I disagree with MechWahoo on Organic Chem and Physics. My personal preference is to take Chem 241/242 in your second year and Phys 201/202 in your third year.</p>

<p>These questions can all be resolved in the pre-med forum here or on studentdoctor.net</p>

<p>However, the typical UVa premed (in the college, may be different for those in the engineering school) is this:</p>

<p>1st:
calc 1/2
gen chem 1/2 + labs</p>

<p>2nd:
intro bio 1/2 + labs
organic 1/2 + labs</p>

<p>3rd:
physics 1/2 + labs</p>

<p>However, I wouldn't give strict recommendation on which order to take these classes as they do not build on each other at all. The recommendation I would give you is to get them done by the end of third year if you wish to apply to medical school directly after completion of college. This is in order to have adequate preparation for the MCAT.</p>

<p>Speak with Beth Bailey the premed adviser at UVa. She is extremely nice and knowledgeable.</p>

<p>Sorry, I just realized that you're doing B.A. in CS, which means you don't have math requirements. You'll need to take calc and two/three math electives if you're doing the B.Sc. in CS which is in the e-school.</p>

<p>uvajack: Do most pre-med students have these science requirements fulfilled with AP courses though (or rather, the first courses fulfilled, with the second round of courses to be taken later)?</p>

<p>I got a 4 on the AP Bio and a 4 on the HL Chemistry (so close to a 5...added up my points). I get the impression that many pre-med students take the standard route (no credit) in order to maximize their GPA rather than risk taking a higher level course such as orgo first year and really screwing up.</p>

<p>I figure that I should only test out of non-science courses simply to fulfill area requirements. The only exception would be English considering most med schools require or would like to see 1 year of English/Literature. Why not take ENWR 110 and a Lit Course to round out my schedule, fulfill the med school English requirement, and hopefully pick up an A?</p>

<p>Uvajack, it seems that the schedule you provided is very similar to the one I'm going for with the exception of math and bio. I would think that taking 2 "easy" labs during 1st year and 1 "tough" lab during 2nd year would be more advantageous compared to 1 "easy" lab during 1st year and 1 "tough" and 1 "easy" lab during 2nd year...or no?</p>

<p>Most pre-med students take the standard route (no credit) because most, if not all med schools, will not accept AP credit for their requirements.</p>

<p>galoisien: I am not sure that I follow your question but I'll try to answer. Yes, many students do accept AP credit for introductory classes. However, many medical schools do not accept AP credit as a replacement for science prerequisites. These students take upper-division classes in college to replace the introductory classes they have AP credit for. Example: AP credit for intro Biology + Bio 300, 301, 203, 204 (or any other 2 lecture courses/2 lab courses in biology). This is a hypothetical (I would not actually recommend 300 and 301 for those wishing to simply fill premed requirements) but you see my point. This can be a tricky situation as for upper-level physics classes may be impractical for many students unless you actually would enjoy a classes dedicated to optics, or quantum mechanics etc. The AP credit I would recommend taking would be for Biology (many upper division classes are interesting and do not necessarily require intense background knowledge, eg. 314 w/ Prof. Roach) and Calculus (I had AP credit for calc 1/2 and did not take a single math class in college, got into medical school just fine).</p>

<p>jask925: I see where you are going. Your schedule is fine, I was just giving the standard U.Va. template. It is difficult to say which labs are more difficult than others because, as you will soon find out, all premed coursework is graded on a strict curve. I received the same grades in nearly all of my premedical coursework. The difference between orgo lab and the rest of the laboratory work is subjectivity and time consumption more than anything else. Yes, the final is very tough, but remember, it is scaled just like other tests. I always preferred a hard test as opposed to an easy test, gives you a much better chance to differentiate yourself from the median.</p>