How does this look in terms of workload/etc for probable Pol Sci major?
HUMA 16000-16100-16200 Media Aesthetics: Image, Text, Sound I-II-III
SOSC 13100-13200-13300 Social Sciences Inquiry
STAT 20000 Elementary Statistics
Intro Language Arabic or Mandarin
I haven’t seen much talk about math outside of Calc do freshman take things like STAT 20000?
Thanks
STAT 20000 satisfies 100 units of the Bio/PhySci/Math core requirement. However, the course isn’t offered in sequence with another stat course - you may take one of either STAT 20000 or STAT 22000 to satisfy Math. Therefore, depending on what AP credits you are bringing in to the equation, you may be required to take an additional Bio. or Phy. Sci. course (over and above the two of each already required) in order to satisfy the overall math and sciences requirement. Does that make sense?
Taking stats totally makes sense for Poly Sci. if you are interested in a quantitative approach so even if you opt for the Math sequence 112/113 (Studies in Mathematics I & II, which taken together satisfy the Math Sequence) you should take some stats to support your major.
Finally, one thought if you did actually place into at least Calc. 131: taking Calculus leaves you with more options for a major, should you change your mind away from Poly. Sci. Econ, Public Policy, and Psychology are just three non-STEM majors that require the completion of at least Calc. 132 (Econ requires you complete through 133). Also, political science majors who have calculus under their belt may be able to enroll in higher-level statistical methods courses - although you absolutely can still take something as basic as STAT 22000 if you still want to. So if you are able to swing it you might consider enrolling in Calculus beginning fall quarter.
“I haven’t seen much talk about math outside of Calc do freshman take things like STAT 20000?”
Just did the calculation based on declared majors as of Spring 2016 (Source: UChicago Statistical Reports). Almost 2/3 were subjects that required Calculus for first majors, and slightly over half for second majors (you are allowed to declare more than one major). That might explain why there isn’t much discussion, since most likely the sequence is a given for the majority of entering 1st years.
@PAC033 “Do do freshman take things like STAT 20000?” Yes, they do. My daughter, a rising Second Year took STAT 200 during autumn quarter last year. Her major (also Poli Sci) and minors do not require calculus. If you have questions about the class, feel free to message me; my daughter has offered to answer your questions and put you in contact with the TL (Teaching Leader) of the SLIC (Stats Learning is Collaborative) Lab for STAT 200.
@NorthLeftCoast, did your daughter use Stat 200 for her Math core or did she use another sequence?
@JBStillFlying Yes, she used it for her Math core.
@NorthleftCoast - how did she work out the science core - did she bring in some AP or did she take (or is planning to take) a 3-quarter-sequence of either Bio or Phy. Sci? Or maybe the requirements this year have changed from last year (not sure). This year you definitely have to take at least two quarters of each science, plus at least one quarter of Math, plus a 6th course that is either a third quarter of a science sequence or a second quarter of a math sequence. And of course they are strict about what constitutes a “sequence”. Very confusing.
@JBStillFlying She has completed 2/2 PhySci, will do 2 Bio back-to-back (Autumn and Winter quarters), then in spring she will decide to do either the third Bio or the third PhySci
@NorthLeftCoast - got it. Good that they don’t have to be back-to-back all three quarters the way they do for, say, Sosc. (or maybe I’m imagining that “full year” means three subsequent quarters with no break).
@JBStillFlying You are correct that for, say, SOSC or HUM, “full-year” means three subsequent quarters without a break. My daughter did HUM first year and will do SOSC this year.
So if your planning on study abroad your sophomore year and you don’t take SOSC your freshman year you will have to wait until your junior year to complete the SOSC series??
@CU123 If you aren’t doing a SOSC study abroad and aren’t taking it first year, then you’re left with taking it third year. Are you set on study abroad your second year?
Students can also resume their sequence wherever they left off the following year, but this is strongly discouraged. In fact, I’m 90% sure this option is reserved for students who are forced to interrupt their SOSC sequence and take a quarter off (often for medical and/or mental health reasons) or a year off for academic reasons.
OK so no big deal taking SOSC third year? Fairly set on study abroad Spring of Sophomore year.
@CU123 you might want to run that one by Summer Advising, just to make sure. My understanding is that Sosc. fills up quick and it’s possible that 1sts and 2nds may get priority over 3rds, leaving your D to try to grab it during Add/Drop. There may well be an exception for the study abroad kids, or they may suggest that she take it first year - better to know now while there is still time to adjust the schedule.
@CU123 Most take it before their 3rd year so that they have the skills learned in it under their belts before they begin courses for their major(s)
@CU123 SOSC as a third-year likely means the following:
So how about
Math 15300 (taken first or second quarter)
Chem 11100
SOSC
HUM
Final questions before submission…My student has received a 5 on the AP Biology exam. The course catalog states she will be awarded 100 units of general education credit (BIOS 10130.) Are we correct in understanding that she will only need one additional bio class, and 500 total units to satisfy the natural and mathematical sciences requirement? The treatment is different than a 5 on the Calc AP which, coupled with the placement test, determined course assignment but conferred no credit correct?
Also, my student is interested in majoring in computer science and the department website strongly encourages majors to complete the introductory sequence during the first year. Other than naming CS as her intended major is their a way to prioritize this in her course selections? She can only prioritize mathematics but feels more strongly about computer science course assugnment than calculus.
“Are we correct in understanding that she will only need one additional bio class, and 500 total units to satisfy the natural and mathematical sciences requirement?” - I believe so but confirm with Summer Advising if the answer will determine autumn schedule, or check with Advisor once on campus.
“The treatment is different than a 5 on the Calc AP which, coupled with the placement test, determined course assignment but conferred no credit correct?” - Correct. If I’m reading all the info. from the Orientation and college catalog sites correctly, they don’t want you skipping any core math (unless you score super. high on their accreditation exam, perhaps). Most will need to do a two-course sequence of calc. regardless of where they begin in the overall sequence as determined by AP.
“Also, my student is interested in majoring in computer science and the department website strongly encourages majors to complete the introductory sequence during the first year. Other than naming CS as her intended major is their a way to prioritize this in her course selections? She can only prioritize mathematics but feels more strongly about computer science course assugnment than calculus.” - Another question for Summer Advising as major courses are prioritized behind Hum and Math. Your student will need Calc. first year, most likely, in order to take the higher math required for the CS major. The current Summary of Requirements for the major in the course catalog includes at minimum Calc. 131-132. So priority on Calc. during autumn quarter is likely appropriate. However, she can always enroll in an intro. course for CS sometime during her first year as a 4th course, can she not?