School doesn't give out rank...

<p>Hey guys,</p>

<p>My school doesn't give out rank. I am ranked 2nd out of a class of 64 in a very competitive independent school. </p>

<p>Since my rank will help me, should I put it in the application somewhere myself since the school doesn't give it out? Will it hurt me that the counselers don't give class rank out to any schools?</p>

<p>Thanks for the input, guys, and good luck to all you other Single Choice Early Actioners!</p>

<p>If this school is indeed a competitive independent school, adcoms likely know your school and can gauge what a good transcript looks like. Test scores become magnified, particularly APs/SAT II's. But it by no means counts you out. Traditionally competitive schools are rarely ranked and applicants are not hurt as a consequence.</p>

<p>ok cool, so it won't hurt me at all?</p>

<p>Well is your school a big-name school that has a history of sending people to schools like Yale? If so, you're fine. If not, it hurts a touch, but AP/IB and SAT's along with an A-laden transcript can be convincing enough of your academic prowess.</p>

<p>Helicio: Failure to rank only hurts students from "non-big-name" high schools if the high school doesn't provide enough information to enable colleges to view students' grades in context. Many small schools don't want to rank because it may hurt applicants. Your school is a good example; the top 10% is only 6 students, although many more students may be strong academically. Many high schools that don't provide class rank include a distribution of grade averages for the entire senior class in the high school profile as a sort of proxy for class rank. Ask to see a copy of your high school profile. </p>

<p>If your school doesn't officially rank, you should not state your rank on your applications, even though you know it unofficially.</p>

<p>Ok sounds great.</p>

<p>They include a lot of statistics, so that should be good enough I am hoping.</p>

<p>Good luck to all you other wannabe-Yalies!</p>