<p>Think of it as grade inflation :) sorry life works that way. I'm truly sad that college admissions processes have driven the human mind to go this far. </p>
<p>And yes...cheating occurs in almost if not all high schools...not just the foreign ones...and yes...koreans aren't the only ones cheating...maybe the daily American cheating isn't reported becuse it's so common?</p>
<p>"I knew a lot of foreign countries were extremely corrupt but now it seems that their corruption and lack of integrity may be able to affect americans here!"</p>
<p>This statement is plain ignorant. Yeah, cheating occurs everywhere.</p>
<p>Yourzer said:
"I'm getting so ****ed off too! I knew a lot of foreign countries were extremely corrupt but now it seems that their corruption and lack of integrity may be able to affect americans here! I hope admissions officers are aware of all the cheating."</p>
<p>You are such an idiot on so many levels I don't even know where to begin. I don't think I even need to explain myself.</p>
<p>BLY,
it's true. sadly so. </p>
<p>all korean tests require you to use black markers, so that test takers and adults who oversee the testing room cannot change their answers. and yup, if you want to change your answer, you have to get a sign.</p>
<p>i wish he was just joking, but unfortunately, he heard right.</p>
<p>and to everyone who's arguing with each other about generalizations, cheating stereotypes etc.. i don't think the main point of this thread was to start this ambiguous argument against each other that could easily lead to racism. i think the point was that THIS particular high school has been faking everything from SAT scores to GPA inflations, NOT that every Korean kid cheats or that "other countries besides america" has soo much corruption. </p>
<p>come on, it's obvious that corruption is everywhere.. just some places worse than others.. and in this case, kinda a bit too far.</p>
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And yes...cheating occurs in almost if not all high schools...not just the foreign ones...and yes...koreans aren't the only ones cheating...maybe the daily American cheating isn't reported becuse it's so common?
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<p>The whole school in on cheating on the SATs? The teachers opening the test booklets before the test, and giving them to the students? Copying SAT tests and distributing them?
I don't think that has ever been an issue in America. </p>
<p>but i definitely get what you're saying about cheating on grades, grade inflation etc.</p>
<p>Wow, I'm a Korean-American student born and raised in California. I've never had too much Korean pride to begin with because I always thought it silly; I'm in the U.S. This article simply digusts me. Wow.</p>
<p>not unexpected.
a few of my korean friends cheat regularly on tests and in school. they have some decent stats (very high sat and gpa), but they are pretty dumb. </p>
<p>I asked them about it and they say most koreans cheat cause they think once they get to a good college, they will be able to get "smart" because of the better teaching at like Columbia and Harvard adn stuff.</p>
<p>I really don't usually post messages, but this particular thread really upsets me. There is this one article, which isn't even proved to be accurate or true, yet people are cursing at koreans as a whole. that is not cool. remember that even if this post turns out to be true, there are millions of other koreans out there who are working their butts off in order to fulfill their aspirations. many of them are where they are simply because they have worked for it and they deserve it. and things like this, believe me, happens everywhere all the time. this thread is very racist, and i hope you all realize that it is just a petty article, not an evident truth. please do not overgeneralize the situation, this isn't fair for many korean students.</p>
<p>I totally agree with the post above. I'm Korean and I did hear about changing letters on the transcripts and the cheating thing, like, some years before and was pretty shocked.</p>
<p>But I don't think Americans should suddenly go feeling sorry for themselves because it seems much "easier" for Koreans. It isn't. I mean I know it's busy busy busy in America because you have all the academics and extracurricular activities to do but in Korea, most schools only focus on the academics. It's so hard to make time to do ecs in high school. </p>
<p>You'll be surprised to know how many hours we spend sitting on our butts. Like, we have so called zero period, although it has been abolished, private schools still have it. We have eight periods and stay school till 9 or 10 pm. I even had a friend who went to a school that had minus one period where they practiced English listening skills before the zero period. Making time for ecs is pretty hard. Even after school most students go straight to private institutions where they study until 12 pm and come home just to sit down with a tutor for two hours before sleep and then wake up at six o'clock in the morning and repeat the same thing every single day for three years of high school. This goes true for most Korean students. I mean Americans will be amazed by the whole Korean educational system and what Korean students go through. It's a very serious problem in Korea, and the root of the problem is so deep that it's considered insolvable. </p>
<p>I'm not trying to defend the Hanyoung students who cheated but I do stand for the general hard-working Korean students who face so many obstacles in their pursuits of going to colleges in US. I hope people don't assume that what the article said is true for every korean schools. I was pretty angry myself when I heard all that Hanyoung students stuff and I do think they'll pay the price once they get to America.</p>
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And international students don't have it that hard in college admissions. I mean, when you compare the number of international applicants versus that of domestic applicants (the former being far less than the latter), internationl students don't have it so hard.
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College Admission is extremely hard for international students, and especially for those with financialc need. MIT accepts around 5% of its international applicants (vs 14% overall), Bowdoin 13% (vs 25%) and MHC 25% (vs 52%).
Is that what you call not "that hard"?</p>
<p>I agree with barlum. That admissions is not that hard for internationals is a lame statement.</p>