<p>Bonita Boyd at Eastman is having some of her students get work, one of the toughest studios of any instrument anywhere in the country to get into. Carol Wincenc who teaches at Julliard was also teaching at one of the SUNY schools. Baxstrasser(sp?) at CMU is a big name in the flute world. Good luck being the one or two students accepted out of the 150 world class flute players trying to get one of the spots in any of their studios. Tons of good teachers floating around and you should find a program that will meet your needs even starting this late if you are the level of player that is even able to think about schools of that level. Have a good friend that plays flute and that is what she tells me, hope it helps.</p>
<p>Wincenc is at SUNY Stony Brook. Just for info, Stony Brook’s program is a BA liberal arts based curriculum, and not a BM. An MM in performance study is offered, and it is highly respected choice in the music academic areas for grad level work.</p>
<p>The faculty list abounds with “names”, but do make sure that access and instruction is open to undergrads, and not just grad candidates.</p>
<p>I would guess most students just want to get into Wincenc’s studio no matter the degree. Getting in at Stony Brook may have disadvantages but getting in at Julliard is near impossible. There is just that much demand. I met a student of hers who attends SB a couple years ago at a music festival and she was thrilled to be studying with CW no matter the school. While it may not always be possible to separate the reputation from the true quality of a professor, the demand is real. It is one of things you weigh when you make your compromise between the level of the school’s program and the professor. Just way too many great flute players coming out of high schools and far too few openings in the top programs. She says flute is just that much different than all other instruments in the supply vs demand curve.</p>
<p>Hi everyone, I’m sorry I haven’t responded. The advice and names you’ve all given are wonderful. My short list is now Boston Conservatory, Peabody Institute, NYU, Hartt, and Crane up at SUNY Potsdam. I’m hoping for Crane and Hartt to be safeties, Peabody and possibly NYU a slight reach, and Boston the in-between. Does anyone feel there are other schools worth looking into? Would SUNY Stony Brook be a contender above perhaps SUNY Purchase?</p>
<p>Eastman, though I would LOVE to go there, was cut for a silly reason. They require a pre-screening DVD, not CD, and I didn’t have enough time to schedule DVD making AND CD making sessions. I think perhaps Eastman will be saved for Grad school along with CMU.</p>
<p>This is all very scary… half of the time I feel very confident and others I’m thinking I’d be better going off and joining the circus. I just wrote a few application essays all about how music is my passion, the one thing I can’t imagine living without, and then I wonder how I can survive by pursuing music!</p>
<p>I wish my parents had just forced me to play violin when I was young. Then there would plenty of opportunities orchestra-wise.</p>
<p>Greig Shearer (at Hartt) is the principal flute player with the Hartford Symphony and he is an outstanding teacher, performer, musician…and a wonderful person.</p>
<p>Joshua Smith at CIM is amazing, but he his studio is really hard to get in to. Worth a look though…</p>
<p>I think there may be a few misnomers floating around. Is it just me, or aren’t graduate schools harder to get into with big names, over an undergrad? I think it depends on the school, i guess. But I just had to say something, regarding the “I won’t get into here, let me go here and I’ll try in four years.” =]</p>
<p>Does anyone have any info on Temple University’s music program?</p>
<p>Mezzo’sMama, from what I’ve heard, everything at Curtis is amazing… which it should be since they pay your tuition if you get accepted…</p>
<p>Musicmanjdb, I haven’t even put that much thought into graduate school (if your comment was for me). Rather, if I didn’t get into the school I most want to go to, I could transfer in a year or so.</p>
<p>Mezzo’sMama–whoops, I just realized you might have meant Cleveland Institute of Music, not Curtis Institute of Music. I acually haven’t ever looked into Cleveland, but my list is pretty down pat now. Most of my applications are due December 1st and I’m making my pre-screening tape next Friday… thanks for the suggestion though!</p>
<p>I recently joined this discussion group.
I have a daughter who is finishing up her freshman year of high school.
She’s been playing flute since 6th grade and piano since 2nd grade. She said she want to get into music school flute perform major.
I’m no music person at all and also was educated in other country.
So, I need tons of information regarding her future.
Here’s the summary of her status.
She has her second private teacher since last March. Her teacher said she has lots of connection with many college in MI(we live in MI), but I doubt it. I tried to talk to her about it,didn’t have a chance to do it yet.
My D will attend MPulse(2week length summer music camp in U of M) this summer.
She joined Youth Orchestra last year and is going to joining again next year(Civic Youth Ensemble by Detroit Symphont Orchestra.)
At this point what we have to to from plannig for looking at shools to having nes teacher and everything. Sorry for the broad question, but I’m that clueless. I’m questioning about how good she is. Her school has three tier concert band. she became the first chair for the second tier band. first tier band has 6flute plyer so I asuming she is the 7th chair at her whole school.</p>
<p>Hi, flutejmom and welcome. If you look at the dates of posts, you’ll see that “flutemomliz” hasn’t posted in a couple of years. My d is currently a HS junior fluteplayer so I will tell you what very little I learned. </p>
<p>You seem to be on the right track. If she is in the “youth orchestra” in the Detroit Symphony program, then it looks like she is in the 2nd tier orchestra there, as well as at school. This is great for a freshman. She might want to start looking at some competitions and also might want to consider auditioning for the Interlochen camps for next year. Doing these will give you a better idea of how she stacks -up.</p>
<p>As for questioning how good she is…Flute performance is so competitive and so much will depend on her college audition as well as who else is auditioning and if there are openings in the studios that is is always an unknown. We heard that Juilliard took 6 (yes 6!) flutes this year but most likely won’t have any openings for next year. I’m not sure my D will even bother to apply!</p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
<p>If you have not already seen it, might I recommend the first dozen or so posts at <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/258796-so-you-want-music-major-one-familys-experience.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/258796-so-you-want-music-major-one-familys-experience.html</a></p>
<p>People who don’t look at Temple University (for performance OR music ed) because of what - the snob factor? - are losing out. </p>
<p>It’s all about the teacher, and <em>many</em> of Temple’s applied faculty are members of the Philly Orchestra, and some of them teach at Curtis.</p>
<p>I have heard that there is more of a grad focus at Temple/Boyer, but perhaps that may vary by instrument. You are certainly correct about the many outstanding faculty.</p>
<p>My daughter is also a flutist in Michigan and will be a senior next year. Here’s some advice to help assess your daughter’s level. 1) If she is in the top orchestra at DSO Civic she will be at a high level of playing (recent grad of the program will be attending UT-Austin and accepted at other near top-tier), 2) When she is at MPulse see if Amy Porter will provide any input (my daughter is currently her only high school student) 3) Next year have her compete in the SEMFA competition (to see where she stands in Michigan at least) 4) Consider Interlochen next summer - she may not yet be at the level for the World Youth Symphony but if she is by 10th-11th grade, she will be towards the top flute performers for her age. 5) See if Sharon Sparrow (DSO) will “coach” her for a specific audition or competition, or take her into her studio. Feel free to contact me for any other Michigan flute info.</p>
<p>If anyone has any specific questions about Temple/ Boyer let me know! I’m going to be a Junior Music Ed/ Flute major there this coming fall. </p>
<p>Just to comment on a few things that have been said:
Boyer is an outstanding music school and is certainly worth looking into. I adore my teacher (a former Philadelphia orchestra member who know plays 1st in the opera company, has a phenomenal CD out and performs in the area, who went to Curtis herself). I have worked with all of the other flute profs. who are all current members of the Phila. Orchestra. All of them are wonderful flutists and teachers. </p>
<p>I do not feel that there is a Grad focus at Boyer. Yes Grad students play in the same ensembles as Undergrads, but I feel that has done nothing than give me a higher level to aim for. </p>
<p>Granted…I love my school and it was the right fit for me (conservatory type music school within a large university which offers good academics and has a strong music ed. program), but that obviously doesn’t mean it would work for everyone. But as I said, if anyone has questions about Boyer, Temple in general, teachers or Philadelphia feel free to PM me! I’ve been through the flute college audition process so I might be able to help with audition questions about other schools (I auditioned at 6 schools, including Temple). Good luck to all!</p>
<p>We realized that it was not as much the school as the teacher. Our flutist attended several summer programs that allowed her to work with several college teachers. She also attended and performed in many masterclasses throughout high school. She found teachers that SHE loved to work with and those schools went to the top of her list. She also decided to not go a conservatory route, once again, her preference. Her top two picks ended up being large schools with small studios. She made her choice and loves it there. She has been able to play in orchestras, concert bands and perform in recitals. Some of the schools had large flute studios that did not allow all students to perform in concert bands, let alone orchestras. Make sure you ask about performance opportunities! You may be surprised by the response you get! You must have a performance credit or two!! One large, extremely reputable school said that they “stick” some flutes into small chamber groups to get this credit in. This school had two professors and about 40 flutes.
I will support Temple’s teachers. We are from that area and d has had the chance to work with them. Also, another small University near there is Westchester University. The flute instructor there is incredible, and very good to work with. Nice school, good area, very strong music program. Good luck to everyone!</p>
<p>Greetings - I have read many threads the past few weeks and with S away at camp in NY he communicated to me that many students his age (15 starting Sophmore year in the Fall) already have a list of schools to explore over the next few years. He asked me to help him to start to assemble a list and having spoken with his teacher, going through many threads here and having communicated with several of you (thank you) created this list. I realize that many schools are very difficult to get into and for us as time moves on, the list will change and shorten to less than half when auditions the happen in the future.
Having said all this if you are a parent of, or a flute performance major or are heading down this road in the future (again parent or student) as we are, We’d like to know of your experiences and thoughts on the schools on this list or any that I’ve neglected to linclude.
thank you
Still Patient</p>
<p>Bard
Boston Conservatory
Carnegie Mellon
CIM
Crane
Curtis
Eastman
Hartt
Indiana (Jacobs)
Manhattan School of Music
New England Conservatory
Northwestern
Oberlin
Peabody
Rice U
Rutgers
Temple (Boyer)
U of Illinois
U of Iowa
Westchester U ¶</p>
<p>I attended Hartt many years ago as a flute performance major with Janet Arms. She currently teaches at Hartt. Janet was miles ahead of most of us when she was a student at Hartt - on another whole level. I highly recommend studying with her. She is an outstanding musician and a wonderful person.</p>
<p>Daughter is a sophmore at U of Iowa and LOVES it! The professor, Nicole Esposito is amazing. She is young and very successful. Daughter loves the campus. She ruled out conservatories, wanted a big school atmosphere with an intimate studio, which is what she got. She loves the music and the opportunies. I just wish it were closer than 1000 miles.<br>
This summer she is taking lessons from Dr. Reighley at West Chester! She really enjoys her lessons. The school just built a new music building, and is in the process of bulilding a new theater building. I think the school is definately worth a look!!</p>