<p>Is Kevin Bacon’s cousin a chip packer?</p>
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<p>I stopped working after freshman year of HS because unlike the HS friends/classmates who continued to work their jobs, the logistics of commuting to/from HS and my inadequate intellect made it extremely difficult to balance working a part-time/weekend job in HS, maintaining ECs, and handling the academic workload my urban public magnet had to offer. </p>
<p>The snobs I was referring to were upper-east sider set HS classmates who attempted to use their SES to snob friends/classmates who waited on them in restaurants during evenings/weekends. Considering their behavior on campus, it was very believable when my friends/classmates who were waiters recounted being snobbed while working…especially when it was corroborated by the owner/other waiters. </p>
<p>Later on, I’ve found the acquaintances I’ve gotten to know who I found behaved in such manner tended invariably to be trustafarians or otherwise came from well-off backgrounds who never worked until they were in college/after college graduation. Not saying all trustafarians or those who came from well-off backgrounds are like that…just that my own observations and those of friends/classmates seem to be that this behavior has a much closer correlation with those inclined to using higher SES to be snobs than those who are “highly intellectually gifted”. </p>
<p>A marked contrast to Poetgrl’s observations.</p>
<p>How do you manage to make every thread about you?</p>
<p>corbat, honestly, if you and I had the same observations about anything at all I would be stunned.</p>
<p>carry on.</p>
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<p>Just offering a contrarian point to poetgrl’s observations that it’s the intellectually gifted who use their bona fides more often to snob service workers than those from the higher SES.</p>
<p>I agree with poetgrl. But then, we already knew that.</p>
<p>Greenie points for poetgrl.</p>
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<p>So another person who accepts an insinuation which IMO is a slur upon a group which tends to be minimized or even denigrated by US pop culture/society at large.</p>
<p>And I find it ironic pointing this out considering I am not part of that intellectually gifted group…though most of them are exceedingly happy to accommodate me. </p>
<p>However, the HS classmates who worked those service jobs while balancing the academic, EC, math/debate teams, and still managing to earn high enough marks to be in the top 25% admitted to Ivy/elite universities or folks like the ex-FSA/HYPSMCC cousin are and I feel honor bound to defend them against such scurrilous insinuations.</p>
<p>Take a deep breath, cobrat. I agree with poetgrl’s post # 324. Please tone down the proletarian revolution.</p>
<p>thanks Jym, but the scurrilous insinuations are apparently all mine. Greenies, however, are yours. 
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<p>Corbat, let’s review: Here is the original post:</p>
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<p>I really don’t think this particular poster was looking for a dissertation on your opinion of clubs. Also, I’m pretty sure, given your description, the original poster was NOT looking for a position paper on Oberlin, a school I happen to really like and to believe you so misrepresent in it’s alleged extremism, they ought to bring an adcom on here to help explain their generally rather financially comfortable demographic.</p>
<p>carry on.</p>
<p>Proletarian revolution? I thought this site was dedicated to the further development of America’s hereditary meritocracy.</p>
<p>I mean, honestly, if I were at Oberlin, I’d be pretty annoyed by this.</p>
<p>Here are all of these parents and students talking about how accepting and careful students are all over the place, all the ways the playing field is evened out at all sorts of places, by both the administration AND the other students, presenting a welcoming version of their kids’ schools and their kids.</p>
<p>Then, we have Oberlin, a place where kids are snide and nasty and cold and withholding and judgemental about the other students and the other student’s potential choices.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t really like that as the reputation of my school, personally.</p>
<p>Most wait staff would rather work in a high dollar restaurant than Denny’s just because larger checks = more tip per table. As they most frequest users of high $$ restaurants are upper income it tends to workout fine.</p>
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<p>Is this a premium feature? Or is it just a well-hidden feature of the regular free accounts?</p>
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<p>Cobrat has said that Oberlin had a strong culture of leftist radicalism and/or activism in the 90’s and those that appeared to not fit that ideal were ostracized. However, he has also said that it has mellowed since then. </p>
<p>When I was applying to colleges back then, I did get the feeling that Oberlin was very left-leaning, so it doesn’t surprise me.</p>
<p>Other than perceived aspersions toward Oberlin, I wonder what it is about cobrat’s posts that bother everyone so much. </p>
<p>Since people specifically seem to object so much to interjecting his own experiences and those who he has interacted with, should we then all stop using anecdotes in our posts?</p>
<p>collegealum, if you enjoy his posts, that’s great.</p>
<p>collegealum,
Are you one of his cousins?</p>
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<p>I get just as annoyed as other posters with all the references to cousins that seem to populate discussions involving cobrat.</p>
<p>However, I’ve noticed that about nine out of ten of these posts referring to these cousins will be by people other than cobrat. In fact, I’ve seen quite a few threads where he doesn’t mention anything about his cousins yet other people bring them up and then wring their hands about it.</p>
<p>Perhaps as they say in the sports world, sometimes the best defense is a good offense.</p>
<p>So sometimes posters will reference the friends/coworkers/cousins/classmates/ex-girlfriends and the irrelevant/off-topic/redundant youtube posts of huns/goths/vikings in an attempt to thwart the predictable posts and hopefully keep the thread on topic. Unfortunately, its only partially successful.</p>
<p>It’s funny, all this stuff about Oberlin. Two of my daughter’s best friends from high school went there, and my daughter visited them regularly during college. She had considered going there herself seriously – Oberlin was her “LAC safety” in case she woke up on April 1 and couldn’t stand the idea of going to a big, urban research university. Anyway, since college both friends have struggled finding traction in the working world and developing realistic expectations about how to support themselves. My daughter attributes a large part of that to what she saw as an Oberlin culture that was shaped by rich kids who were not going to be under pressure to support themselves by working after college. (For one very public example, Lena Dunham, one of their classmates. Dunham has been fabulously successful as an artist, but she was helped a great deal by having her parents be famous artists who financed a feature-length film after she graduated. And, um, not everyone who graduates from college hoping to make films turns out to be as good a writer as Dunham.)</p>
<p>It goes back to my second post in this thread, a score of pages ago: Any successful liberal arts college is a place where the wealthy elite hangs out.</p>