<p>I forgot about that NYC ... answer was (and I assume still is) ... dry dirt.</p>
<p>k&s,</p>
<p>Your overinflated sense of the quality of Notre Dame's student body is incomprehensible. "Similar to Ivies"?!?! </p>
<p>Unlike some of the other schools you mentioned, the Notre Dame student body has relatively little racial, ethnic and socioeconomic diversity. It's not very hard to maintain decent SAT scores in such a homogeneous environment. </p>
<p>Another factor that exacerbates Notre Dame's lack of diversity is its disproportionate number of legacy admits. One whole quarter of its incoming class are legacies, some of whom are marginal students at best. Why do you think Notre Dame has a decent yield? Because many of these leagacy admits cannot get into any other comparable school.</p>
<p>nyc -</p>
<p>It would be helpful if you just stuck to what I was referring to, instead of expanding the topic/issue at hand.</p>
<p>I am very aware of ND's rather homogeneous student body - but I was just merely commenting on the strength of the student body academically (class rank, SAT/ACT scores) w/o dwelving into other issues.</p>
<p>Up here in the Minneapolis and St. Paul, Notre Dame is by far the most prestigous college anyone could go to. Seven of the top ten kids in my schools' last year class want to Notre Dame. Three of them turned down admittances into an ivy, one of them turned down Harvard. Northwestern is certainly thought of as a good school, but just not at the same level as Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Georgetown is more similar to Northwestern than ND, and doesn't have Greek life.</p>
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<p>Most likely a heavy Catholic area.</p>
<p>But, generally, across B10 country - most people don't think "ooooh, ND" since it is primarily seen as a FB school.</p>
<p>The same goes for UM despite its top-tier graduate programs (also, the fact that B10 state schools all tend to be good to very good leads to UM not being seen as "special" academically).</p>
<p>Lookin at the nos. again, I misspoke w/ regard to the make-up of the ND student body.</p>
<p>On the basis of SAT scores, ND's student body is a little bit behind schools like NU, Penn, Coumbia, Duke, Stanford.</p>
<p>Otoh, (just like NU), ND does tend to have higher ACT scores.</p>
<p>RonPaul, that is probably just your school. Most of the people from my school used Notre Dame as a backup good school. They knew it was good, but it certainly couldn't trump Northwestern, Harvard, Cornell, Duke, UChicago, or even Vanderbilt in most of their minds because prestige wise, Notre Dame is not that well known for academics.</p>
<p>Sure, the sports jocks wanted to go there...but...um....so?</p>
<p>Boston University has no greek life, so that might be something to consider.</p>
<p>Greek system can affect campus life. Ever spent time in Urbana or Bloomington, IN? Tough if you don't want to be in the system.</p>
<p>I'd say Michigan or Wisconsin.</p>