Schools on the rise

<p>I’m still one to be skeptical of any serious CA budget cut impacts on public universities such as UCSB, UCSD, and Berkeley.</p>

<p>In a recent UCLA Daily Bruin article, it was found that tuition increases in the university more than offset all the budget cuts the university has been suffering!</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dailybruin.com/media/00/00/03/94/39473_web.centerpiece.chart.1_big.jpg[/url]”>http://www.dailybruin.com/media/00/00/03/94/39473_web.centerpiece.chart.1_big.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>All public universities have to do is control increasing costs. -.-</p>

<p>^^“BTW, can we put a moritorium on Ohio State being referred to as tOSU? Is it due to being pretenious (like U. Miami football players calling it the “U”) or to differentiate themselves from Oregon and Oklahoma state? Buckeyes chime in.”</p>

<p>Buckeye History 101</p>

<p>"In 1878, and in light of its expanded focus, the college permanently changed its name to the now-familiar “The Ohio State University”, with “The” as part of its official name.</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://library.osu.edu/sites/archives/resources/chronopart1.php[/url]”>http://library.osu.edu/sites/archives/resources/chronopart1.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>hmm… I prefer TOSU over tOSU!! :p</p>

<p>Applications for TOSU has soared from 21,000 only 3 years back to roughly 32,000 (No Common Application) this year!! Last year freshman admission rate was 54% and this year will be ~50%. Go Bucks!! lol</p>

<p>^^^Tyrelle Pryor and I prefer to call it TUOS. :-)</p>

<p>UCLA is perfectly fine. None of the departments are taking major cuts. The increase in tuition will offset the budget cuts. Also, UCLA was just given $200 million by a single donor =)</p>

<p>I agree that UCSB is on the rise…I also feel that UC Irvine is on the rise. UCI has two new programs (Business Admin and Law) which are highly popular, distinguished professors, etc. UCI is also located in Orange County which is an area that is known for being rich and continually growing.</p>

<p>Most of the UC’s were on the list of Universities who received the most applications this year. I bet the UC’s could raise tuition again and would still be very desirable.</p>

<p>Lastly, there is no doubt that USC is on the up…I think they’ll surpass Georgetown and Norte Dame soon!</p>

<p>@rjk,</p>

<p>“Tyrelle Pryor and I prefer to call it TUOS. :-)”</p>

<p>oh, you along with TP can call Ohio State whatever you want for the reasons that Spartan and Buckeye Fans call U of Michigan much worse names, such as the infamous —> “MUCS” (read in reverse); and TP with 3 Big Ten titles, 1 Rose Bowl victory, 1 Sugar Bowl victory and most importantly 3 straight Michigan wins thus far under his belt can call TOSU whatever he desires imo. :p</p>

<p>Anyway, this is “School on the rise” thread. So, let me return to the topic by saying for the 100th-time that amongst the Top Public schools, The Ohio State University - Columbus will make a significant jump in the upcoming USNWR 2012 ranking so long as no more last minute tweaking by Mr. Morse this year. Still have doubts? Well, those well-qualified freshman applicants that are now been rejected or deferred to the regional campuses this year as well as our old in-state academic rival - Miami of Ohio will agree with me.</p>

<p>(I ran into this thread earlier today by accident through the search function. It’s interesting to see what others think of TOSU’s recent admission/academic advancements, in this case, CCers of Miami - Oxford)</p>

<p>Link: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/miami-university-ohio/1076746-how-selective-has-ohio-state-become.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/miami-university-ohio/1076746-how-selective-has-ohio-state-become.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ok, I am beating a dead horse with this subject. Excuse me!! I now rest my case until the new ranking comes out in Aug. lol</p>

<p>I am a senior at a private Catholic college prep school and have observed the following:</p>

<p>First of all, the tip top of the ivy league is still everyone’s top choice.</p>

<p>Rise: </p>

<p>Duke
Wash U (tripled applications from 2 years ago at our school, received 4,500 more applications this year than last)
Vanderbilt
Johns Hopkins
USC (widely hated for its student body but one cannot ignore its improvements)
Wisconsin
Michigan</p>

<p>Fall:</p>

<p>Cornell (perceived as a place where people go to jump off cliffs)
Brown (left wing cesspool)
any school with “state” in its name</p>

<p>Stagnant:</p>

<p>Northwestern
UB-Berkeley
Notre Dame (falling if anything, has received bad press due to a kid dying in a forklift accident, suffering football team even though basketball and lacrosse are great, every Catholic’s default dream school until they actually start researching colleges)</p>

<p>Also a comment about Wash U: to think that this is the only school that “manipulates” admissions statistics (see: Duke University) is naive and absurd. And even if you do believe this happens, do you really think the admissions office and the president sit around scheming about how to make the school look more prestigious by fudging a few numbers here and there for a statistic that counts as 1.5% of a school’s total rank? I would think they would be using their time for more productive things.</p>

<p>I’d say the bigger problem with ND is the difficulty for middle-class students. The cost is out of control.</p>

<p>I dont blame them for that, tuition at any good private school is absolutely ridiculous and if nd wants to keep up they need to increase tuition. But ND needs better fin aid.</p>

<p>@MN9001: You are gravely mistaken. </p>

<p>Northwestern is clearly on the rise. They received nearly a 20% increase in applications this year.
Brown and Cornell are NOT falling. They’re pretty much where they are with Duke –> Highly sought after universities. Duke’s apps rose 15% as well.</p>

<p>Berkeley will probably increase as well due to the out of state students it’s attracting. But tuition is a lot of OOS so…it’s fate is somewhat unclear.</p>

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<p>Haha, wow you totally summed up my feelings with Notre Dame. From about age 5 to 15, I loved the school and it was totally my #1 dream school.
Then, I found CC and looked into more schools and I only applied to ND because my mother really wanted me to. Overrated IMO, especially in schools like ours (I go to a Catholic H.S. too, midwest)</p>

<p>Rise:</p>

<p>USC: Mentioned before, I applied here, but I’m going to need a NROTC scholarship to attend, I have my fingers crossed. Seems so vibrant and the momentum is definitely shifting upward. </p>

<p>OSU: Not a safety anymore for a lot of kids. Really cool school, great vibe and a pretty good balance of everything. </p>

<p>Alabama: Surprised no one mentioned this yet. Rising really fast. President of the school down there is working really hard to grow enrollment while making it more selective and the opportunities for kids in the honors college are pretty good. </p>

<p>Unfortunately, it is hard for a deep south school to gain respect, at least in the eyes of people where I live…like kids asking if all you need to get in is all your teeth or ten toes. </p>

<p>GMU: Kind of wish I applied here (love DC/NOVA area, used to live there). Great rising school and a great value for in-state kids.</p>

<p>ND had a big increase in applications this year-seems likely to continue with improvement in football under good coach. Duke will continue to be a hot school with all of its attributes-top academics, great athletics, campus, weather, alumni network. Among LAC’s- Davidson, Holy Cross have experienced application growth while Colgate has seen declines in app numbers.</p>

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Wrong. NU saw a respectable 11.99% increase in applications. WUSTL increased 15.48%. Cornell saw a decrease (-0.18%) and Brown a slight increase (2.87%). Surprisingly, Columbia saw big gains this year (32.12% increase in apps).</p>

<p>[Applications</a> Rise (Yet Again) at Dozens of Selective Colleges - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/total-apps-2011/]Applications”>Applications Rise (Yet Again) at Dozens of Selective Colleges - The New York Times)</p>

<p>TOSU will be the 1st B1G school to require not only the freshman but all sophomores to live on campus per school President Gordon Gee’s vision based on campus master plan. The school is planning to spend over $300 million on dorms’ construction and renovation to make it a reality. </p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>“University President E. Gordon Gee announced in 2008 that he wanted all sophomores to live on campus, saying the rewards include higher retention and graduation rates, better grades, increased involvement in campus activities, and more mentoring among students.” more…</p>

<p>[OSU</a> plan would expand dorms | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/08/28/osuplan-would-expand-dorms.html]OSU”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/08/28/osuplan-would-expand-dorms.html)</p>

<p>Certainly not to the level of USC this year in terms of amount raised (still a Top-10 effort in the nation I believe based on last year’s data), but official campaign is scheduled to kick-off next year (a year delayed due to the sudden passing away of Chief Fundraiser Dr. Sorensen…). </p>

<p>[Ohio</a> State annual fundraising tops $400M - Business First](<a href=“http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2011/09/ohio-state-annual-fundraising-tops-400m.html]Ohio”>http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2011/09/ohio-state-annual-fundraising-tops-400m.html)</p>

<p>Go Bucks!! lol</p>

<p>TOSU currently sits on top of roughly $2.5 billion endowment with additional scheduled $2.5 billion fundraising campaign set to kick-off next year; it continues to invest hundreds and hundreds of million dollars in all aspects of school advancement as an attempt to become one of the premier public institutions in America since the return of the renown President E. Gordon Gee. The latest have Ohio State planning to borrow several hundred million dollars to finance a variety of university projects in addition to $335-million on dorm renovations in which all the freshman and sophomores will be required to live on campus by 2014 (hardcore Soviet style teaching & learning environment especially for one of the largest universities in America) and billion dollar medical center expansion. As an alumnus, I hope all these “aggressive” investment strategies will be paid-off in terms of raising the overall academic reputation of the university in the foreseeable future.</p>

<p>[Ohio</a> State University Wants to Borrow $300-$500 Million | StateImpact Ohio](<a href=“http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/2011/10/05/ohio-state-university-wants-to-borrow-300-500-million/]Ohio”>http://stateimpact.npr.org/ohio/2011/10/05/ohio-state-university-wants-to-borrow-300-500-million/)</p>

<p>Unless the school has jumped significantly in the rankings, it is not “on the rise”. Miami is a good example of a school that is on the rise, as is northeastern university. When a schhool jumps as much as these have in recent years, they are “on the rise”.</p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>“Let’s discuss school’s whose reputation, prestige, quality, etc. has been or will be on the rise in the coming years.”</p>

<p>^^As indicated by the OP of this thread. Nowhere did it say that it has to be based solely upon USNWR annual ranking; however, I certainly don’t mind anyone starts a thread that says, “USNWR School that jumped,” even though I will not participate since it has not proven not consistent. From the top of my head, schools such as Clemson, Florida & Minnesota all had a year or two great run/jump, then it stalled due to variety of reasons. Nonetheless, if one insists on using USNWR as a measuring stick, then I would rather believe and agree with over 2,000 academics that “Up-and-Coming” category would most reflect the kind of schools that this thread is looking for. </p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>"In the spring of 2011, for the fourth year in a row, U.S. News asked top academics as part of the regular U.S. News peer assessment survey to name the schools that they think are “Up-and-Coming Institutions.” College presidents, provosts, and admissions deans were asked to nominate up to 10 colleges in their U.S. News Best Colleges ranking category “that are making improvements in academics, faculty, students, campus life, diversity, and facilities. These schools are worth watching because they are making promising and innovative changes.”</p>

<p>This popular item on the peer survey enabled college officials to pick schools within their U.S. News Best Colleges ranking category that are rapidly evolving in ways that the public should be aware of and that are not always quickly noticeable in a college’s year-to-year rankings or the regular peer assessment survey."</p>

<p>[Methodology:</a> The Up-and-Coming Schools - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2011/09/12/methodology-the-up-and-coming-schools-2012]Methodology:”>http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2011/09/12/methodology-the-up-and-coming-schools-2012)</p>

<p>University of Tulsa</p>

<p>Sorry, messed up my first post. Anyway, it rose 18 spots this year in US News rankings!</p>

<p>Schools on the rise are probably Northeastern and Miami (as mentioned before). However, I think that each institution might have reached its ceiling. </p>

<p>I cannot see Northeastern being compared to the likes of Tulane and GWU (~50). And Miami, although ranked very closely to BC, NYU, is not going to leap frog over these schools. </p>

<p>Maybe USNews will somehow manipulate data to say otherwise.</p>