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<p>The Univ of MD Baltimore County (UMBC) will be featured on 60 Minutes on November 13. It will focus on the university’s culture of innovation and achievement, especially for students studying science, technology, engineering and math. UMBC is the #1 Up and Coming University for the third year in a row. US News also ranks UMBC **fourth on the list of top national universities “where the faculty has an unusual commitment to undergraduate teaching.” **UMBC is tied with Yale and ranks just ahead of Brown and Stanford.</p>

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<p>A 23% increase in ED applicants at Duke. Now that is what I call a school on the rise.</p>

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<p>Northeastern Early Action applications are up 12% to over 16,000. Pretty substantial given they are already the most applied to private school in the country.</p>

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<p>UChicago’s apps are up 25% as well. Nondorf’s tactics are working.;)</p>

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<p>Northeastern is playing the rankings game so well. And it helps that it’s in Boston. Glad to see that it isn’t considered a safety for BU students anymore.</p>

<p>However, it plays the game like Tulane (which bothers me a bit). I know plenty of people who were accepted into Ivies, and other top 20 schools who were wait-listed by Northeastern. </p>

<p>Nevertheless, it is on the rise.</p>

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<p>^^ Yup, I believe that most of the aforementioned ‘Schools on the rise’ in this thread are gaming the USNWR Ranking. Since not many have the resources nor the will to inject additional billions and billions of dollars on top of the operational budgets and research expenditures like Ohio State in order to truly propel and establish the school in all aspects of academic.</p>

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<p>how do you know that? For example, at Clemson we’re currently in the middle of a capital campaign to raise $600 million</p>

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<p>This is just one person’s perspective, but here are the schools that caught my attention this year as we’ve been seaching for S2’s school:</p>

<p>Midwest:
St. Olaf
Gustavus Adolphus College
Lawrence University
Marquette University
Truman State University
Bradley University
Butler University</p>

<p>East:
Bucknell
Dickinson College
Wake Forest</p>

<p>South:
Tulane
Trinity University</p>

<p>West:
Santa Clara
Colorado College
University of Denver
Reed
Whitman
University of Pudget Sound</p>

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<p>“how do you know that? For example, at Clemson we’re currently in the middle of a capital campaign to raise $600 million”</p>

<p>It’s not how much a school raise, rather, how much a school is willing to spend as I alluded above!! Schools such as USC and some Ivies do extremely well in fundraising, and able to raise a few billions in no time. Nonetheless, it is TOSU that spent roughly $2.5 billion in the last 2 years and is expected to continue to inject $1 billion per year for its institutional advancement based on Sasaki Master Plan. Only Harvard has the capacity to spend $1 billion a year (based on 4.5% of its endowment as is the case with Michigan) in addition to annual budget operation and research expenditure. Even if Clemson is to spend the entire $600 million raised (which it won’t), the budget would be equivalent to half of the TOSU medical center expansion project. And TOSU is currently carrying out many many more projects and expected to spend $5 billion more in the next few years. </p>

<p>Unlike most of the public schools in the country, TOSU has been fortunate enough to have State’s strong support and also well on its way to exceed the $2.5 billion fundraising campaign. In all fairness, you don’t hear me singing my other alma mater (Michigan State University) praise nearly as often as Ohio State - even though that school is currently constructing the $650 million FRIB, and is expected to receive additional $100 million a year for research once completed both from NSF and DOE. Why? In the grand scheme of things, MSU just does not have the overall capacity nor the ‘academic depth’ as TOSU; therefore, I believe MSU would have hard time breaking the Top-40. Whereas TOSU’s academic prowess has long been established, based on NRC rating, 38 programs were recognized, second only to Stanford in the country. If TOSU continues its vector under President Gee’s leadership, I boldly predict that by 2020, TOSU will without any doubt transforming into one of the very top public schools in the country.</p>

<p>[NRC</a> Rankings](<a href=“NRC Rankings”>NRC Rankings)</p>

<p>[Sasaki</a> | Portfolio | Ohio State University Framework Plan](<a href=“http://www.sasaki.com/what/portfolio.cgi?fid=533]Sasaki”>http://www.sasaki.com/what/portfolio.cgi?fid=533)</p>

<p>In hindsight, I guess I should stand corrected that instead of agreeing with ‘newuser2011’ that other schools are gaming USNWR, they might be on the rise as well, but in a small increment compared to TOSU. Therefore, my sincere apology.</p>

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<p>But tied for second with Michigan and Wisconsin @38–plus much lower average non-zero score per program with higher number being better. UM had a 7.24 avg score, UW 6.95 and OSU 5.79.
But I have to love the passion.</p>

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<p>Not to mention the data is from 1993 and report is from 1997.</p>

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<p>@barrons,</p>

<p>“But tied for second with Michigan and Wisconsin @38–plus much lower average non-zero score per program with higher number being better. UM had a 7.24 avg score, UW 6.95 and OSU 5.79.”</p>

<p>Certainly; otherwise, TOSU would be in the Top 10 now, yet I meant to point out its potential when referring to the NRC report. Nonetheless, the school is excelling academically at the pace of $1 billion a year investment, and the numbers simply don’t lie. Currently, I do not see any public university nearly as ambitious as TOSU in terms of pushing for institutional advancement. In fact, the school has been and will be spending about 5 times more when compared to the Top Publics in a decade. </p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>“The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, for example, is completing a 10-year, $2.1 billion renovation and construction program that included a $122 million genetic research center. The University of Virginia has $1.51 billion in new buildings in the planning and construction stages, according to a report by C. A. Johannesmeyer, the director of facilities planning and construction.”</p>

<p>[University</a> of Michigan Spending $2.5 Billion to Grow - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/realestate/commercial/31michigan.html]University”>University of Michigan Spending $2.5 Billion to Grow - The New York Times) </p>

<p>Furthermore, whenever I mention school on the rise, I don’t mean based solely upon USNWR, rather I mean in general and in all aspects of academics. In fact, President Gee himself despises USNWR ranking. </p>

<p>[U.S&lt;/a&gt;. News college rankings - YouTube](<a href=“U.S. News college rankings - YouTube”>U.S. News college rankings - YouTube)</p>

<p>When Gee was contacted while as the Chancellor of Vanderbilt back in 2007, our renown Trustee, Leslie Wexner demanded him of one tall task, which was to put together a master plan in order to level our academic playing field with the school up north (aka. University of Michigan). With thorough consideration, he ultimately agreed and accepted the challenge, and deemed as his final masterpiece of academic career prior to his retirement. In assessing his performance, so far it has worked, though not immediately reflected upon annual USNWR ranking, in all academic aspects, the school has vastly improved - recognized by 2000+ academics across the nation as ‘Up and Coming’ four years in a row (I admit, I stole this phrase from UCBChemEGrad!! ;p).</p>

<p><a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/up-and-coming[/url]”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/up-and-coming&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“But I have to love the passion.”</p>

<p>Thanks barrons for the acknowledgement!! :)</p>

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<p>^Seems premature to talk about catching Wisconsin and then Michigan when OSU hasn’t passed Penn State and Illinois?? ;)</p>

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<p>^^ Indeed Sam, if USNWR is your only guide. IMHO however, TOSU has already caught up if not surpassed PSU in most academic indicators, and gradually closing in on UIUC. As I alluded in other thread, by 2016-17, TOSU will at least tie with UIUC & Wisky (sorry barrons) at undergraduate level. And last but not least, 2025 will be the year when TOSU tie with Michigan as a whole (not only undergrad division). </p>

<p>My prediction of Top-5 Public from 2025-2050 in the country are: UCB, UCLA, Michigan, Virginia and Ohio State in no particular order. Our Sasaki Master Plan will be expired by 2060. Please remember my words, even though I may not be around by then, but I was the 1st to predict the outcome, ok? ;)</p>

<p>Quote:</p>

<p>“They said OSU needs an estimated $5 billion more to reach its goals of attracting better students and brighter faculty members and becoming one of the top universities in the country.”</p>

<p>[OSU</a> Inc.? Staff leery of ideas to ?privatize? | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/28/osu-inc--staff-leery-of-ideas-to-privatize.html]OSU”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2011/10/28/osu-inc--staff-leery-of-ideas-to-privatize.html)</p>

<p>Leak: TOSU is also planning to building a new delux ‘Faculty Village’ on the bank of Olentangy River in order to attract the top faculty recruits to come live in Columbus from around the globe.</p>

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<p>“And last but not least, 2025 will be the year when TOSU tie with Michigan as a whole (not only undergrad division).”</p>

<p>Dream on Sparkeye7.</p>

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<p>“Seems premature to talk about catching Wisconsin and then Michigan when OSU hasn’t passed Penn State and Illinois”…Or UNC, UTA, UCSD, UCSB, W&M, UCI, UCD, UW, etc, etc, etc…</p>

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<p>^^“UNC, UTA, UCSD, UCSB, W&M, UCI, UCD, UW, etc, etc, etc…”</p>

<p>UNC+UVA+Michigan’s major project spending from 2007-2017 = roughly TOSU’s budget for Phase II (2012-2017). See my above news links. When it comes to academics, Gordon Gee is widely perceived as a great visionary leader not a dreamer. ;)</p>

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<p>“Gordon Gee is widely perceived as a great visionary leader not a dreamer.”</p>

<p>Yes I know. He was just glad that Jim Tressel didn’t fire him. :-)</p>

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<p>As I always like to say in the commercial real estate biz–signs (plans) are cheap. How much has OSU actually put on the ground in new construction–excluding hospitals–since say 2006 (5 years). I tried to find a summary on the OSU site but failed. UW has an excellent and easy to read capital projects site listing all projects and the cost since 2005 plus all current construction. The total is similar to UM, UNC, etc at around $2.5 Billion in completed or under construction funded projects since 2005 excluding the football stadium expansion ($110 M.). That also excludes the UW Hospitals which is a separate legal entity and does not really represent academic buildings–just hospitals and related offices. Anything like this for OSU?</p>

<p><a href=“https://fpm-www3.fpm.wisc.edu/cpd/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zAKN9HYRwxU%3D&tabid=189&mid=1373[/url]”>https://fpm-www3.fpm.wisc.edu/cpd/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zAKN9HYRwxU%3D&tabid=189&mid=1373&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;