Sections of UPenn Confusion

<p>Hi,
Im a bit confused about where I would apply to if I were to apply to UPenn. If I wanted to have a undergrad business major, yet take pre-med courses, where ideally should I go? Wharton? or CAS?</p>

<p>Also, if I take a business major in Wharton, can you also take sciences in cas?</p>

<p>thanks so much!</p>

<p>you should apply to whichever school interests you. generally for med school admissions, a liberal arts major from the College is your better bet. The College is also the best place to get a high GPA required for getting into med school admissions, and the workload won't be as great.</p>

<p>wharton would be your best bet only if you have a deep interest in business. from wharton, its def possible to take science classes in the College (in fact, you will NEED to in order to meet your premed requirements). however, i don't think many wharton students actually go to med school. last year there was only one. if you are a premed in wharton, you will def be a minority.</p>

<p>you should look into the Life Sciences and Management joint-degree program. <a href="http://www.upenn.edu/lsm/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.upenn.edu/lsm/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br>
also, you can dual-degree between CAS and Wharton, but i assume that would be a difficult feat. SEAS offers a Bioengineering major (one of the best bioE programs in the country i believe), so you might want to also consider the Jerome Fisher Program in Management and Technology (<a href="http://www.upenn.edu/fisher)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.upenn.edu/fisher)&lt;/a>. plus, i hear m&t kids are like way cool.</p>

<p>You can take many intro courses at Wharton while in CAS and Wharton offers several interdisciplinary minors with CAS. If premed is your goal, Wharton will hurt your GPA and take time from your electives (which would be focused on premed courses). If you are like me and uncertain whether you want to go into business or medicine, start in CAS and worst case, get a degree in economics and get a slightly lower paying job right out of college. Maybe you could try to get a degree in BME. It fulfills all the premed courses, and kids form SEAS get pretty good offers because some IBanks and consulting firms like engineers a lot.</p>

<p>i am already set on what i want to do, though. I want to major in business, but go on to med school right after undergraduate. I was wondering if I could major the business in Wharton, while doing all my pre-med requirements in CAS...</p>

<p>You can do that. Your premed adviser probably will suggest that you not major in business because Wharton is very competitive and med schools are very GPA oriented. You will be competing against people in CAS with better grades, and possibly more research experience (it is probably easier to get lab positions with a bio major than a business major). It's your decision though, and it is possible.</p>

<p>yep m&t kids are def cool....</p>

<p>i agree with venkat... a business major, especially at wharton, as a premed is almost like doing extra work to disadvantage yourself. true, wharton has hands-down the best health care systems department in the country (and probably the only one in the top 10 b-schools). however, your GPA is so much more important than your major in terms of med school admissions, and its very difficult to maintain a 3.5+ in Wharton. remember as a CAS student you can still take business courses from wharton, even as you take grade-inflated liberal arts classes for your major. </p>

<p>here is a list of some of the (prestigious) med schools that CAS students went to last year... <a href="http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/college/2006cpsurvey.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/college/2006cpsurvey.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>yeah, so i dont know what to do, cause I want to major in business, and get an MD from a goood med school. I eventually want to go into medical business, thats why.</p>

<p>you can also check out ~5 year MD/MBA combined degree programs. schools like penn, harvard, columbia and duke probably have the best programs (because both their business and medical schools are very strong). here's a complete list:</p>

<p><a href="http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=211819%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=211819&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>i wouldn't say harvard ugrad business is very strong (or duke's and columbia's for that matter)</p>

<p>Harvard and Columbia don't have undergrad business. All they have are Econ majors. I'm not sure about Duke.</p>

<p>Top 10 Colleges with Undergrad Business:
Penn, MIT</p>

<p>If you want to go into the business field, you are better off going to a top 15 college (Ivys and their peers) than going to any business school except Sloan and Wharton (maybe Ross, Stern, and Haas too). Business is all about recruiting, and the top 15 college will give you the most opportunities. Also, the only other Ivy with undergrad business is Cornell, and you don't hear much about it (but it's still pretty good).</p>

<p>reality and downtown, i was referring to graduate business schools (that offer MBAs). HBS, Columbia B-school, Fuqua, and Wharton are all excellent business schools that have top-ranked medical schools within the same university.</p>

<p>of course wharton is one of the best if not the best in business, but how is the UPenn Med school (of course its good), but compared to like JHU and Harvard med and the rest of the Ivies?</p>

<p>well according to usnews, its ranked 3 (right behind JHU and harvard)... so yeah, its a great med school</p>

<p>Well, the top Ivy med schools are without a doubt Harvard and Penn. The top 8 med schools (rough estimate, but because ohz23 mentioned the Ivys) would look like Harvard, Hopkins, Penn, WashU, Duke, Stanford, UCSF, and I don't know. Princeton does not have a med school. The rest of the Ivys have pretty good med schools, but it doesn't matter too much where you go to med school (unless you want to go into academics). Whether you go to Harvard med or some random unknown state school med, you still become a doctor.</p>

<p><a href="http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=211819%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=211819&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.med.upenn.edu/education_mdmba.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.med.upenn.edu/education_mdmba.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>this program is perfect, and I would loveeeeee to go to Wharton for MBA and UPenn for MD.</p>

<p>How hard would it be to go from UPenn Undergrad to this program?
the reason I ask is that in many med/bus schools, the med schools do not take many from their affiliated school (johns hopkins med school doesnt like jhu undergrad kids). Is it the same, and should I plan to go to another undergrad in order to get into here?</p>

<p>Plus, in these programs, is the level of prestige/education any different than just being in the med school or in just Wharton? any differences?</p>